Overtaking just as the speed limit increases

Strider590

anewman wrote: »

Another road rage thread with a pet hate of mine. Got to hate it when people overtake you as you're doing the speed limit (and I mean by sat nav not the under-reading speedo), and pull straight back in apparently without looking, just as the speed limit increases. It is exactly the point in time law abiding motorists want to put their foot down to make progress and get up to the new speed limit, but such overtakers often force you to do the sensible thing and not accelerate. It's like they have no forethought to consider that as the speed limit increases someone might want to increase speed.

Or is it just me who has experienced this? :rotfl:

I think what happens here is (and correct me if im wrong) your driving through for example a village, at the limit of 30mph and you see an "average speed driver" closing up behind you, they assume your a slow driver and as soon as you hit the NSL they overtake only to carry on at 45mph :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I will very rarely overtake as there's a limit increase (if the car in front is doing 20 in a 30 for example), but i'd much prefer a stealth overtake at the next safest spot.

TVR2

Hintza wrote: »

What has that got to do with the price of beef?

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

lol my carbon footprint and all that jazz...

Mark_Hewitt

scotsman4th wrote: »

I know where your coming from but I have to admit, theres circumstances where I would do this.
Normally travelling to Ayrshire through a multitude of 30 zones when the car in fronts done 45-55 in the NSL sections but NOW wants to do 65.

Agreed. If I've been following someone doing 45mph in the NSL section, and there is a clear overtaking opportunity just before the NSL sign going back out of the village, I'll take it!

Also a few times had someone overtake me in a 30, just for them to do less than the speed limit in the NSL!

Mark_Hewitt

TVR2 wrote: »

If someone happens to be overtaking they'd better be sure they have a hefty motor under the bonnet else they'll be finding themselves stuck on the wrong side of the road.
(hopefully)!

And if they can't get back onto the correct side of the road because you're blocking them, you are partially liable for any resulting accident!

mikey72

Mark_Hewitt wrote: »

And if they can't get back onto the correct side of the road because you're blocking them, you are partially liable for any resulting accident!

I had a white van do that to me.
He rolled happily down the hill, to the dip in the bottom, pulled out, then just didn't have any power to pass going up. So, as I hadn't accelerated, do I actually slow down, or do I accelerate up to 60, and leave him a space to pull in?

Mark_Hewitt

mikey72 wrote: »

I had a white van do that to me.
He rolled happily down the hill, to the dip in the bottom, pulled out, then just didn't have any power to pass going up. So, as I hadn't accelerated, do I actually slow down, or do I accelerate up to 60, and leave him a space to pull in?

Your judgement, whichever is going to get him back on the correct side of the road most quickly.

TVR2

Mark_Hewitt wrote: »

And if they can't get back onto the correct side of the road because you're blocking them, you are partially liable for any resulting accident!

I'm not responsible for what the car behind me is doing, else you could argue that it is the car in front's responsibility to keep an appropriate distance from the car behind. If a car is travelling at the speed limit and passes a new limit, it is surely correct to assume the car will likely alter its speed to meet the new limit...

I wouldn't do it on purpose, but if I want to accelerate within the law and when the road is clear in front that's my prerogative. The car attempting to overtake is welcome to pull back in behind me

EDIT
Also Mr Hewitt, you quoted me out of context there. I did not say 'Hopefully' to the idea someone might be stuck on the wrong side of the road, I would never be so flippant with such a serious matter. You don't work for the News of the World by chance?

Lum

goldspanners wrote: »

i don't for one minute beleive that. if there was enough time and space for the vectra to get into the left and overtake on the inside then there was enough time for you to move back to the left before him.

I disagree. The only space the Vectra driver needed to pull into the inside lane is a gap slightly larger than one Vauxhall Vectra.

Meanwhile people who aren't tw@s will use some approximation of the two second rule before moving across in front of the person in the inside lane.

Therefore, assuming LeeUK is not a complete tw@ then no, he couldn't safely move across, however the Vectra driver was able to unsafely move across.


On the subject of undertaking, what the hell was going on on the M4 yesterday. A bit of rain and everyone drives like idiots. You'd think the Welsh would be used to driving in the rain but no, inside lane doing 40, outside lane doing 45 and the middle lane completely empty.

Normally it takes a light sprinkling of snow to cause multi-lane roads to gain a dedicated Lum lane, but apparently now rain does it too.

Mark_Hewitt

TVR2 wrote: »

I would never be so flippant with such a serious matter.

I did not take it that you were.

Strider590

When I was out in the Westfield in these situations, I used to let them finish their overtake, then as they pulled back in i'd pull out in 3rd gear, floor it to 9'000 rpm and leave them in a cloud of tyre smoke.
Better to let a driver complete his/her overtake, it's far less dangerous.