I'm screwed

harveybobbles

I'd be surprised if they do it under warranty as it has missed a service...

Maximillion

harveybobbles wrote: »

I'd be surprised if they do it under warranty as it has missed a service...

When I spoke to them on the phone the chap said it depended whether the problem could be attributed to the lack of service.

harveybobbles

Lack of service wont help matters. Plus the fact you then over filled the thing - which i'm sure you will tell them...

bigjl

vaio wrote: »

I can see the dieseling possibility with an over filled sump and over speeding might affect the crank/con rods but I’m struggling to see any mechanism by which an over filled sump could affect any of the rest.

How can excess oil affect injectors, valve or turbo seals or bend valves?

Actually, I’d be falling down amazed if a diesel with bent valves would even start.

OP, whatever damage has been done there will be multiple possible causes so I’d keep quiet and hopefully they’ll fix it under warranty.

Simple, overrevving can bend or break valves, and I have seen cars run with a valve completely broken off and stuck in the head.

The other cylinders ran fine, just no compression in the one with the broken valve.

The turbo is lubricated by the engine oil, too much oil and overrevving can burst the sels, simple as that.

The reason I reckon the injection system could be damaged is that the reason the car revs its nuts off is due to oil being pulled through into the induction system, it then enters the engine and the engine revs way past the design limits, the ecu may try to adjust to this, and surely there is a possibility for some form of damage?

Remember that as a diesel it would almost certainly be governed/limited to a certain RPM to prevent damage from overrevving, but as the engine revved well beyond this due to the ECU having no control over how much fuel is injected as the engine is running off the sump oil.

I also based this assumption that the cars runs rough, and just stated that this is a possibility, amoung others, to explain the rough running.

Though as far as the OP not being responsible? He added the oil, not anybody else, he also failed to check the oil level before topping up, on the say so of a bloke that sells car parts, and is probably no more qualified to comment than somebody that sells sweets.

Also when the interrogate the ECU I think they will be able to see how high the engine revved, and the engine will almost certainly be sent back to Swindon or Japan to be inspected fully by some white coated engineers.

Remember we are taking about Honda here, not a used car salesman. Honda will want to know the cause of the failure.

When a Sprinter engine was run low on oil at work it started to knock slightly, but the fitters changed the oil and hoped for the best, it lasted another month or so before it really started knocking.

Merc in Germany stripped the engine and confirmed that the reason for the failure was lack of lubrication, and the LAS had to pay for a new lump, and staff where told to check the oil every shift when the vehicles, which most of us did anyway as we knew that diesel, especially new ones driven hard will use more oil than the Rover V8 engined ones we had used for the previous ten years or so.

TVR2

bigjl wrote: »

Merc in Germany stripped the engine and confirmed that the reason for the failure was lack of lubrication, and the LAS had to pay for a new lump, and staff where told to check the oil every shift when the vehicles, which most of us did anyway as we knew that diesel, especially new ones driven hard will use more oil than the Rover V8 engined ones we had used for the previous ten years or so.

What did you have running Rover V8 engines? You must've been gutted to have them replaced by clattery 4 cylinder vans...

sassy_one

I'm really shocked your all telling the OP not to admit it and I'm glad I don't have a Honda or use a Honda garage, enjoy all your costs going up with Honda!

Dishonest and a mistake maybe, but one that will cost you all!

Parva

Maximillion wrote: »

I had just held a conversation with an auto spares shop owner who had informed me that new cars drink oil like mad and need topping up every 1000 miles and my car had a capacity for 6 litres.

What absolute tosh! Any car that requires that level of attention should be sent back to the main dealer! If I needed to add more than 1 litre of oil in 6,000 miles I would be worrying (only had one car that actually needed ANY topping up). Is it only me that thinks that this whole thread is a wind-up?

harveybobbles

New diesel Honda's drink oil like its going out of fasion. I've seen soooo many replacement engibes due to oil starvation on cars under a year old!

Read any motoring forum and you will hear people having to add a litre every 1000 miles. ON A BRAND NEW ENGINE! Eek...

harveybobbles

Parva wrote: »

Is it only me that thinks that this whole thread is a wind-up?

go and buy a brand new Honda 2.2 deisel and you will see for your self how much oil they use.

Kilty_2

..... and definitely don't buy this one at auction :rotfl: