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BBC: Scottish Property Prices Reach All Time High
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Well I'veseenthelite. Its quite clear that your prone to ignoring information that you don't like. But thanks for confirming.
I'm happy to discuss relevant information, let's try and discuss the facts.
For your benefit, it may help to take them simply one at a time.
To that end, from the latest release ROSEA data, do you want to discuss the fact that Edinburgh on average increased to £215,008 from £211,777 (1.53% increase):wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Do you know what....... For once, I may have to partially agree with geneer.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Shame you didn't agree when you were bleating about new Edinburgh peaks last summer.HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »In Edinburgh, terraced and flat prices are down year on year, whilst the price of semi's and detached has risen.ESPC:
The average house price in Edinburgh during the fourth quarter of 2010 was £213,685, 2.0% lower than during the same period in 2009. This marked the first time since the third quarter of 2009 that an annual fall in the average house price had been observed in the Capital.
Within the city most areas saw falls of between two and five per cent. A 3.5% drop took the average price of a one bedroom-flat in Leith Walk and Easter Road to £105,706 while the average price of a four-bedroom detached house in Edinburgh’s suburbs stood at £379,990 following a decline of 4.4%.
In fact all edinburgh properties -2% YOY
Edinburgh City Centre -2% YOY
3 bed semi -5.6% down YOY (OUCH!)
Everything down. YOY. (Spamishes favourite).
Isn't that strange Spamish. It appears as if you're talking absolute twaddle. Whoops.
(cue Spamish McSpamish finding something much more interesting elsewhere).HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Which explains ESPC claiming minor statistical skew.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »I'm happy to discuss relevant information, let's try and discuss the facts.
:rotfl:Actions speak louder than words dearie.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »For your benefit, it may help to take them simply one at a time.
Actually, I believe I have dealt with them one at a time.
Hence you're demonstrable efforts at divert focus to ancillary issues. One at a time.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »To that end, from the latest release ROSEA data, do you want to discuss the fact that Edinburgh on average increased to £215,008 from £211,777 (1.53% increase)
Sweetie money lite
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Anyhoo, thanks for your attention darling.
You're still the most affectionate of Geneers Gals.
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:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Shame you didn't agree when you were bleating about new Edinburgh peaks last summer.
In fact all edinburgh properties -2% YOY
Edinburgh City Centre -2% YOY
3 bed semi -5.6% down YOY (OUCH!)
Everything down. YOY. (Spamishes favourite).
Isn't that strange Spamish. It appears as if you're talking absolute twaddle. Whoops.
£35K=minor statistical skew. :huh: :laugh:
Can I question these statistics with you Geneer?
From here http://www.ros.gov.uk/pdfs/rosstatisticalreport_oct-dec2010.pdf
Page 4 Table 1 Average residential Properties
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2010 = £216,597
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2009 = £208,449
Annual Change = 3.9%
Page 9 Table 5 Detached Average (Mean) Sale Price
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2010 = £369,138
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2009 = £337,921
Annual Change = 9.2%
Page 11 Table 7 Semi-Detached Average (Mean) Sale Price
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2010 = £257,740
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2009 = £247,961
Annual Change = 3.9%
Page 13 Table 9 Terraced Average (Mean) Sale Price
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2010 = £229,501
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2009 = £239,255
Annual Change = -4.1%
Page 15 Table 11 Average (Mean) Sale Price for Flatted properties
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2010 = £187,242
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2009 = £182,033
Annual Change = 2.9%
It seems quite clear the facts don't match up with what you are saying.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Can I question these statistics with you Geneer?
From here http://www.ros.gov.uk/pdfs/rosstatisticalreport_oct-dec2010.pdf
Page 4 Table 1 Average residential Properties
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2010 = £216,597
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2009 = £208,449
Annual Change = 3.9%
Page 9 Table 5 Detached Average (Mean) Sale Price
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2010 = £369,138
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2009 = £337,921
Annual Change = 9.2%
Page 11 Table 7 Semi-Detached Average (Mean) Sale Price
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2010 = £257,740
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2009 = £247,961
Annual Change = 3.9%
Page 13 Table 9 Terraced Average (Mean) Sale Price
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2010 = £229,501
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2009 = £239,255
Annual Change = -4.1%
Page 15 Table 11 Average (Mean) Sale Price for Flatted properties
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2010 = £187,242
Edinburgh Oct - Dec 2009 = £182,033
Annual Change = 2.9%
It seems quite clear the facts don't match up with what you are saying.
Whats actually quite clear is that you don't appear to have noticed that ol' Spamish and myself were discussing ESPC stats.
So the fact is, you've made a boo boo. 0 -
Whats actually quite clear is that you don't appear to have noticed that ol' Spamish and myself were discussing ESPC stats.
So the fact is, you've made a boo boo.
May I refer you to the original post which referenced the ROSEA stats
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2834548
So rather than run away from the post, do you have any comments / disagreements with the latest facts I linked and showed?:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »May I refer you to the original post which referenced the ROSEA stats
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2834548
Of course you can lite. And if it diverts attention from the fact that Spamish and I were talking about something else before you breathlessly had to get a few tugs in, so be it.;)IveSeenTheLight wrote: »So rather than run away from the post, do you have any comments / disagreements with the latest facts I linked and showed?
I think we've been here a few times before I think darling.
I'm kind of partial to a leading indicator.
But keep it up honey bunny.
You wouldn't be half as much fun if you weren't such a predictable comedy stereotype.
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I think we've been here a few times before I think darling.
I'm kind of partial to a leading indicator.
You've been banging on about the leading indicators for a while now, yet the ESPC data is not coming through and reflecting in the ROSEA stats.
You'd have thought it would have done so by now.
That said, the ESPC does not cover all the sales in your VI region, while ROSEA covers all sales between £20,000 and £1,000,000 (Are there townhouses sold for more than £1,000,000?)
Surely you can admit that from the latest released stats, comparing Q4 2009 with Q4 2010, Property increased in all sections for Edinburgh with the exception of terraced properties with an overall rise.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »You've been banging on about the leading indicators for a while now, yet the ESPC data is not coming through and reflecting in the ROSEA stats.
For at least as long as you've been desperate to ignore them.
But I don't see you in a hurry to super impose the figures on your little spam-chart doll, so we can take your assertion with a pinch of salt.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »You'd have thought it would have done so by now.
That said, the ESPC does not cover all the sales in your VI region, while ROSEA covers all sales between £20,000 and £1,000,000 (Are there townhouses sold for more than £1,000,000?)
Surely you can admit that from the latest released stats, comparing Q4 2009 with Q4 2010, Property increased in all sections for Edinburgh with the exception of terraced properties with an overall rise.
Lets see what they say in 3 months lite. 0 -
For at least as long as you've been desperate to ignore them.
But I don't see you in a hurry to super impose the figures on your little spam-chart doll, so we can take your assertion with a pinch of salt.
Much better to utilise fuller, reliable facts than an indicator that cover's only partial sales.
Stick to the ROSEA and you have good decent data to work with.
They're more up to date than the ESPC (ESPC latest release Nov, ROSEA latest DeC) and cover more sales.Lets see what they say in 3 months lite.
How long have you been saying that for?
I've not known you long but can envisage you've been saying that for the last 5 years.
Nevermind, stopped clock and all that, you might get a glimmer of satisfaction some quarter in the future.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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