Advice needed - does my child have ADHD?

fsdss

my own personal view is not to take you sons to the doctors with you. you need to discuss your sons behaviour with the gp, and some of it is not going to be pleasant for anyone hearing bad things about themselves- let alone a vulnerable child. he will have more issues that he needs to cope with at the moment and i think that you should just keep things normal for him until you have your referral.

blessings3

as above from me - 6 is young to listen to a list of mostly negative things about oneself
My DS is now seen by a consultant every 4 months and we do talk mostly freely infront of him but this is mostly positive progress reports and Harry is aware he has issues as we talk about ''stratergies'' alot to help him deal with things

blessings3

PS Good Luck

David_Harrison_2

blessings3 wrote:

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NO:mad: get a specialist pediatrition trained in diagnostic tequniques to check him out - get the school to refer him to an educational psychologist - get an expert opnion in person who has physically seen your son

Osteopahaths are usually very competant and well trained individuals who would not diagnose a mediacal/neauralogical condition in a child as they would think this well ouside thier sphere of skills and remit, they would however be very willing to help treat symptoms

Cranial or any other type Oseopathy cannot cure ADHD

ADHD is not caused by birth traumer - it is a neuralogial condition with no one proven cause

How dare you? There are plenty of Osteopaths out there who are perfectly capable of, and more than adequately trained to, diagnose medical and neurological conditions in adults and children.

What is wrong with letting a child be assessed by a trained, competent Osteopathic or CranioSacral practitioner? No-one can cure any disease - they can however help remove the blocks that are stopping the person from curing their own disease. We do not treat symptoms - that is the mainstay of conventional medicine - we attempt to help the patient get themselves better by looking for the causes.

There are plenty of reports of the onset of Adhd being preceded by trauma, be it at birth or later in childhood. Trauma leaves it's imprint in the tissues of the body and this can affect their healthy functioning.

The symptoms of ADHD seem to be chemically mediated, through brain chemicals and other hormones. The way these chemicals are released, balanced, and function in the body can all be influenced by structural problems. It is by re-balancing the structures of the body, and in particular the tensions and fluid flow within the skull and nervous system, that a cranial practtioner can help their patient to a better state of health.

Surely it is better to try this type of non invasive approach first before going for the convention treatment of the Ritalin chemical cosh?

Just because you have not found help from certain therapies is it right to tell other people not to try them.

fsdss

well said david.

the other issue is FINDING a paediatrician who believes that ADHD exists and even commit themselves to DIAGNOSE such a condition (which would be even harder to achieve).

the best way is to manage these signs is from professionals such as an ed psych, or as david suggests a professional who has researched and has an interest in adhd.

a paediatrician would deal with the behaviour by chemical means and whilst this would reduce the excessive behaviour traits often indicated, it would mean that your child would be drugged up during childhood..if i were in this position i would rather look for a paediatrician as a last resort.

ping_2

On a note of caution, any therapy that you use and are not referred by a health or other professional will have a cost implication. Whilst i agree that other 'therapies' have a role, but as such are not available to all.

conradmum

Another vote for Omega 3! My son was an extremely difficult baby who often reduced me to tears. I used to spend 2/3 hours a night getting him off to sleep. Now he has a teaspoon of EyeQ oil in orange juice every day and when I put him to bed at 7pm he goes off like a dream.

blessings3

David_Harrison wrote:

How dare you? There are plenty of Osteopaths out there who are perfectly capable of, and more than adequately trained to, diagnose medical and neurological conditions in adults and children.

What is wrong with letting a child be assessed by a trained, competent Osteopathic or CranioSacral practitioner? No-one can cure any disease - they can however help remove the blocks that are stopping the person from curing their own disease. We do not treat symptoms - that is the mainstay of conventional medicine - we attempt to help the patient get themselves better by looking for the causes.

There are plenty of reports of the onset of Adhd being preceded by trauma, be it at birth or later in childhood. Trauma leaves it's imprint in the tissues of the body and this can affect their healthy functioning.

The symptoms of ADHD seem to be chemically mediated, through brain chemicals and other hormones. The way these chemicals are released, balanced, and function in the body can all be influenced by structural problems. It is by re-balancing the structures of the body, and in particular the tensions and fluid flow within the skull and nervous system, that a cranial practtioner can help their patient to a better state of health.

Surely it is better to try this type of non invasive approach first before going for the convention treatment of the Ritalin chemical cosh?

Just because you have not found help from certain therapies is it right to tell other people not to try them.

How dare I?, I have a child with ADHD

How many ''alternative therapies'' should someone try before they get real help instead of claptrap about re-balancing and healing themselves

Your interest is craniel osetopathy, my intrest is a real life child who has real life pratical physical and mental problems.

Show me empirical proof that craniel osteophy has a real measurable effect on a statistically viable test group of children with ADHD instead of just your opinion

Read a few good books on ADHD - look at the bloody scientific evidance - dont prattle on to me about something which obviosly you have very little ''real '' knowlage -

My son need pratical day to day help with his education not his head rubbing by some prat who thinks his chi is unballanced

If I asked for NTA support for my son in school because my oseapath says he has a birth trauma i would be laughed out of the place -

If you have read my posts I am very much in favour of some alternative methods but you are not a diagnostition :rotfl:


If you think you can diagnose then you are a dangerous man and I pitty your clients especailly someone with something that is advanced or advances rapidly who wates time with you insted of getting a real medical opnion

blessings3

fsdss wrote:

well said david.

the other issue is FINDING a paediatrician who believes that ADHD exists and even commit themselves to DIAGNOSE such a condition (which would be even harder to achieve).

the best way is to manage these signs is from professionals such as an ed psych, or as david suggests a professional who has researched and has an interest in adhd.

a paediatrician would deal with the behaviour by chemical means and whilst this would reduce the excessive behaviour traits often indicated, it would mean that your child would be drugged up during childhood..if i were in this position i would rather look for a paediatrician as a last resort.

If your child had cancer would you deny them drugs because they would be [U''drugged up during childhood''

If your child had epilepsy/diabetes/shisophenia etc would you in all honesty trust in wholistic medicine for long term treatment - ADHD and Autism are no different - only in that the symptoms show in behaviour not in a phsyical manifestation

Read a few books about adults who had ADHD as a child and the differnce that medication made to them -

Join my ADHD support group on eBay and read about reallife cases of ADHD and the trama it causes to families and some of the adult members who have found ritalin to be a mirical drug

Its patronising people like you who make parents ashamed of having a child with an illness and blam themnselves and are too afraid to stand up to the system/society and if necessary to give thier child a drug which in many mean thier child can live a relativly normal life and stay in main stream education


And that is claptrap about (most) peadatritions - They do not dish out ritalin/stratera/concerta like smarties they are more likerly to advise parents to try EyQ - diet - parenting classes before anything - You are about 10 years behind the times with that opinion


And an edphys will alomst invariably advise you to get a diagnosis from a pedeo especially if a stament is needed


PS to anyone ''real'' out there eyeq is avaliable on perscrition under many circustances but many GP's (but all peadatritios!!) do not know this but will look at the register with some prompting - saves me (MS moment) about £60 a mounth:T

Jo_anne_2

ping wrote:

Snaggles,
I also work in the world of children with additional needs. Lots of clients thst I work with will look at their childs diet very closly. Things that seem to help some children on the Autistic spectrum are aviodance of:
aspartime(sweetner in many squashes etc)
monosodium glutamate (a preservative in lots of stuff)
and gluten. However I would only avoid gluten after consulting your GP.
As for the other 2 if you have a back to DIY cooking, this can be easier than it first sounds. I avoid aspartime with my eldest especially, although he is not on the spectrum,as I notice his behaviour gets far more lairy when he has had it.
Hope this helps.

My middle son reacts badly to aspartame. His behaviour was very difficult to handle when he was a toddler, but in between the wild times we could see that he was a bright lovely boy (just it was so well hidden at times). It took a long time to establish that his behaviour was connected to aspartame in low sugar squashes, etc. But eventually we cut it out of his diet and he was much much better. On the odd occasion when he was given a drink containing aspartame at nursery, or at a friends house, we could tell straight away. His pupils would be dilated and he would be distant, like he was unable to hear us, and he would rock to and fro, or fiddle with something obsessively, or run around the room pushing out at the walls. For years, I had to read the labels on everything we bought to avoid aspartame (it gets everywhere!). My other two boys don't seem to be affected to any great extent by it, but middle son was very sensitive to it. He doesn't have ADHD or apsergers, by the way.