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geordieracer

geordie_taxi wrote: »

i understand when it was a nationalised company it was in the publics interest to enforce these bylaws but why r private train companys special.

no other private company has this right so why should they?

imagine if a PPC had a byelaw it would be an invite to print money

Because all railway land still belongs to Network rail which still belongs to the government. The TOCs whenever they do prosecute under the bylaws are doing so on behalf of NR.

It does not happen very often but it does happen. And it doesnt happen via a PPC issuing a ticket.

Stigy

Driver8 wrote: »

Here it is again stigy in case you missed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VPs3cF8vOI


Your hero. I bet you'd love to wear that uniform and have all that "power"
wouldn't you?

Okay, attention wh*re, I saw it the first time thanks! I just didn't find it significant enought to warrant a reply. Yes, they are my idols by the way.

Stigy

geordieracer wrote: »

Because all railway land still belongs to Network rail which still belongs to the government. The TOCs whenever they do prosecute under the bylaws are doing so on behalf of NR.

That's a very loose way of looking at it. When I report somebody for a ticket irregularity, I'm doing so because the TOC has lost the money that they would have gained if the 'customer' had bought a ticket.

Also, regarding nationalised companies using the byelaws, London Underground is Government run, as is National Express East Anglia these days I believe.

geordie_taxi

geordieracer wrote: »

Because all railway land still belongs to Network rail which still belongs to the government. The TOCs whenever they do prosecute under the bylaws are doing so on behalf of NR.

It does not happen very often but it does happen. And it doesnt happen via a PPC issuing a ticket.

i thort network rail was a private company

Stigy wrote: »

as is National Express East Anglia these days I believe.

i think you mean East Coast

trisontana

Stigy wrote: »

That's a very loose way of looking at it. When I report somebody for a ticket irregularity, I'm doing so because the TOC has lost the money that they would have gained if the 'customer' had bought a ticket.

Also, regarding nationalised companies using the byelaws, London Underground is Government run, as is National Express East Anglia these days I believe.

London Underground is actually run by Transport For London, and it's East Coast Railways which is government run.

Driver8

Stigy wrote: »

Okay, attention wh*re, I saw it the first time thanks! I just didn't find it significant enought to warrant a reply. Yes, they are my idols by the way.

I would never have guessed it. I bet it's the uniform isn't it?

geordieracer

geordie_taxi wrote: »

i thort network rail was a private company



i think you mean East Coast

Technically it is a private company which tries to keep off the government books but it still receives billions from the government to keep the railway running..

In fact British Rail itself was still in existence up until a few weeks ago

Stigy

trisontana wrote: »

London Underground is actually run by Transport For London, and it's East Coast Railways which is government run.

Must have mistaken the latter, but they're still Government run.

Regarding TfL, are they a private company? Bear in mind that bus companies throughout London appear to be mostly franchised these days (Stagecoach used to run buses in the capital, but I believe Arriva have the monopoly these days). Maybe I'm just confused.

There's Government input in all rail companies though, with strict agreements in place for franchises.

geordie_taxi

geordieracer wrote: »

Technically it is a private company which tries to keep off the government books but it still receives billions from the government to keep the railway running..

In fact British Rail itself was still in existence up until a few weeks ago

Stigy wrote: »

Must have mistaken the latter, but they're still Government run.

Regarding TfL, are they a private company? Bear in mind that bus companies throughout London appear to be mostly franchised these days (Stagecoach used to run buses in the capital, but I believe Arriva have the monopoly these days). Maybe I'm just confused.

There's Government input in all rail companies though, with strict agreements in place for franchises.

thank you for clearing up those mistakes but have we got any new thorts on apcoa and PCNs as to put the thread back on course

Messrs_Arthur_and_Terry

esmerobbo wrote: »

Why wait six years to lose??

Or sell the debt to a savy American company that takes no prisoners.;)