Wales & Northern Ireland very hacked off...

tomterm8

I think we should give scotland a taste of independence: devolve both spending and revenue raising powers to them, so they can spend whatever they raise in taxation, minus a fair share of common costs such as defence. As an English voter I've got to say I am fed up of subsidising people who every ten minute threaten to leave the union. Let them.

sss555s

vivatifosi wrote: »

You're totally missing the point. I have no problem with paying for my own prescriptions, that isn't the issue. My problem is with my taxes funding people in the same position as me to have things for free just because they live in a different part of the UK.

You mean a bit like how the private sector pay their own pensions and the public sectors better pensions?

Shakethedisease

Damn, hooked back in again..

But just to point out..

Because the grant given to Scotish, Welsh and Northern Irish Government bodies (local, regional and national) effectively mean that England gives a large subsidy to the rest of the United Kingdom.

That I wasn't arguing the toss about any the 'size' of any subsidy. I don't want to be here all day defending or attacking various points of the Barnett formula or the Calman report.

I was pointing out that the money these devolved governments get is for, as in Scotlands case, MSP's to prioritise as they wish ( precisely the point OF a devolved parliament ). Iin order to better serve their citizens preceived needs at the time. It's hardly the Scot's fault that English Mp's in their own constiutencies didn't make see the same things as priorities and voted accordingly for tuition fee rises etc etc ? Is it ?

Please don't start with the 'Scottish Mp's' voting on English issues thing. I'm talking soley about Members of the Scottish Parliaments, Welsh Assembly etc making decisions and priorities with their own allocations of cash as they stand presently.

sss555s

Does anyone know how much Scotland contributes including the oil industry? What i do know is Scotland is the poorest county with the amount of oil it has produced, the money must be going somewhere!

Face it guys, England would be nothing without the celts :A

chewmylegoff

wales and ni are angry because they are subject to budgetary cuts just like everyone else. what did they think would happen?

the easiest way for the welsh to find the savings would by to abolish their idiotic local assembly whose primary function appears to be to pay salaries a whole raft of third rate politicians who aren't good enough to even be MEPs.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Damn, hooked back in again..

Welcome home....

chewmylegoff

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Damn, hooked back in again..

But just to point out..



That I wasn't arguing the toss about any the 'size' of any subsidy. I don't want to be here all day defending or attacking various points of the Barnett formula or the Claman report.

I was pointing out that the money these devolved governments get is for, as in Scotlands case, MSP's to prioritise as they wish ( precisely the point OF a devolved parliament ). Iin order to better serve their citizens preceived needs at the time. It's hardly the Scot's fault that English Mp's in their own constiutencies didn't make see the same things as priorities and voted accordingly for tuition fee rises etc etc ? Is it ?

Please don't start with the 'Scottish Mp's' voting on English issues thing. I'm talking soley about Members of the Scottish Parliaments, Welsh Assembly etc making decisions and priorities with their own allocations of cash as they stand presently.

well, it's all likely to be immaterial as given the cuts that are going to have to be made in the regions, i expect that things like free prescriptions will be amongst the first things to go.

FTBFun

chewmylegoff wrote: »

well, it's all likely to be immaterial as given the cuts that are going to have to be made in the regions, i expect that things like free prescriptions will be amongst the first things to go.

Haven't the SNP said they're going to abolish prescription charges this very week?

southantrim3

The assembly here suggested something like about re-instating prescription charges as the system was being abused (as in pharmacists issuing prescriptions for paracetamol etc) so the idea has been suggested of charging a nominal £1 per prescription.

Pont

chewmylegoff wrote: »

wales and ni are angry because they are subject to budgetary cuts just like everyone else. what did they think would happen?

the easiest way for the welsh to find the savings would by to abolish their idiotic local assembly whose primary function appears to be to pay salaries a whole raft of third rate politicians who aren't good enough to even be MEPs.

Totally! Also please remember that the majority of us Welsh DID NOT vote for a Welsh Assembly (51% of the 35% who bothered to vote did - they've a lot to answer for). :mad: