DWP, Medicals

tb1uk

i had my DWP medical on 20/10/10 10.30am at durham medical centre.

after months of emails/phone calls/letters i had my ATOS/DWPmedical recorded by the DWP using their own equipment.

the doctor did not use LIMA, he used a form based on my GP's reports. the doctor filled the form in with everything i said and it's all on the tape

the only extra cost to the DWP was for 2 cassette tapes at 50p each.

i have 1 of the tapes.

if you are due a medical, tell them you want it recorded. they have done it for me, there is no reason they won't do it for you

pass this info around to anyone that will need it and get your medicals recorded

tb1uk

i had my DWP medical on 20/10/10 10.30am at durham medical centre.

after months of emails/phone calls/letters i had my ATOS/DWPmedical recorded by the DWP using their own equipment.

the doctor did not use LIMA, he used a form based on my GP's reports. the doctor filled the form in with everything i said and it's all on the tape

the only extra cost to the DWP was for 2 cassette tapes at 50p each.

i have 1 of the tapes.

if you are due a medical, tell them you want it recorded. they have done it for me, there is no reason they won't do it for you

pass this info around to anyone that will need it and get your medicals recorded

Gemstar30

dmg24 wrote: »

Yep, that sounds correct.

Good luck with the medical - in my experience the people that hit problems are those that make a big deal of it, and in some instances, be as difficult as possible. If you have medical reports from your GP and specialist this should help the process also.

Hello

I have just noticed your reply. How do you mean - making a big deal out of it & being as difficult as possible?

I can be a mouthy cow when the need arises especially if I think I am being treated unfairly. Are you saying that I should keep it 'shut'?

But why, I have rights?

Then you mention about medical reports and things. From what I have been told that you must NOT send anything in beforehand - only if you fail the medical. From other threads I have heard that there is a letter that says this.
Who should you send the reports to and when?

Thank you

Gemma
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Oldernotwiser

Gemstar30 wrote: »

Hello

I have just noticed your reply. How do you mean - making a big deal out of it & being as difficult as possible?


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W had one poster on here who complained that the examiner wasn't a native English speaker and insisted on seeing his medical qualifications. I think that this is the sort of thing that was meant.

Katykat

Generally speaking, the examiners are medically qualified, either Drs or nurses. I'm not aware of any information that states otherwise. However, they dont make the decision, they merely complete the questions asked by the computer programme ( think its called Lima ), so I suppose they dont really have to be medics at all. The completed programme then goes to the DWP decision maker, who although I'm not 100% sure, must be a Dr. They are the ones who decide if you qualify for benefits. But back to Azules original question, I think the process might be a little different as he is not claiming any benefit, just NI contributions. I'm not sure what the decision might entail. Incidentally, I've never understood the rationale that self employed people dont qualify for benefits. They pay tax and NI, why shouldn't they get the same as an employed person. Or for that matter, the same as someone who has never worked and never paid tax or NI?

But thats a whole new discussion though, isn't it?

Oldernotwiser

Katykat wrote: »

Generally speaking, the examiners are medically qualified, either Drs or nurses. I'm not aware of any information that states otherwise. However, they dont make the decision, they merely complete the questions asked by the computer programme ( think its called Lima ), so I suppose they dont really have to be medics at all. The completed programme then goes to the DWP decision maker, who although I'm not 100% sure, must be a Dr. They are the ones who decide if you qualify for benefits. But back to Azules original question, I think the process might be a little different as he is not claiming any benefit, just NI contributions. I'm not sure what the decision might entail. Incidentally, I've never understood the rationale that self employed people dont qualify for benefits. They pay tax and NI, why shouldn't they get the same as an employed person. Or for that matter, the same as someone who has never worked and never paid tax or NI?

But thats a whole new discussion though, isn't it?

They pay considerably less NICs than an employed person and they do get the same as someone who's never paid them.

healy

Katykat wrote: »

Generally speaking, the examiners are medically qualified, either Drs or nurses. I'm not aware of any information that states otherwise. However, they dont make the decision, they merely complete the questions asked by the computer programme ( think its called Lima ), so I suppose they dont really have to be medics at all. The completed programme then goes to the DWP decision maker, who although I'm not 100% sure, must be a Dr. They are the ones who decide if you qualify for benefits. But back to Azules original question, I think the process might be a little different as he is not claiming any benefit, just NI contributions. I'm not sure what the decision might entail. Incidentally, I've never understood the rationale that self employed people dont qualify for benefits. They pay tax and NI, why shouldn't they get the same as an employed person. Or for that matter, the same as someone who has never worked and never paid tax or NI?

But thats a whole new discussion though, isn't it?

The DWP decision maker is never a Doctor.

The process is the same for those claiming credits only as it is for anyone else.

Self employed people do qualify for ESA contributions based if they have paid their class 2 NI conts.

FTW

azules wrote: »

I dont think you seem to be grasping what I am saying here

I have been out of work for 8 months
I have a wife and two kids
I am not looking fopr sympathy
I except I do not have any right to benefits, just a top up to my wife wage via working tax credit.

I dont have 20 quid to spend on a recording mic or whatever..ket alone wishing I had 100 quid to spend.
You presume if I bought one I could resell it for near buying price
you presume someone would want to buy it in the first place.

I have said I am willing to try using my phone,I dont want to do it
but it looks as though I may be wise to do so.
Please understand. 20 quid to me.. is a lot of money
its money I do not have.
I dont get benefits..so what am I to be wary of
other than lies.

Using the phone to record should be OK in itself - depending on how much record time it's capable of.

Make sure you speak clearly and loudly enough for the phone mic to pick up what you're saying (it's more important that you capture what you say rather than what the doc's saying).

azules

FTW wrote: »

Using the phone to record should be OK in itself - depending on how much record time it's capable of.

Make sure you speak clearly and loudly enough for the phone mic to pick up what you're saying (it's more important that you capture what you say rather than what the doc's saying).

Yes I grasp what you are saying here
I never thought of it that way thanks...

azules

Katykat wrote: »

Generally speaking, the examiners are medically qualified, either Drs or nurses. I'm not aware of any information that states otherwise. However, they dont make the decision, they merely complete the questions asked by the computer programme ( think its called Lima ), so I suppose they dont really have to be medics at all. The completed programme then goes to the DWP decision maker, who although I'm not 100% sure, must be a Dr. They are the ones who decide if you qualify for benefits. But back to Azules original question, I think the process might be a little different as he is not claiming any benefit, just NI contributions. I'm not sure what the decision might entail. Incidentally, I've never understood the rationale that self employed people dont qualify for benefits. They pay tax and NI, why shouldn't they get the same as an employed person. Or for that matter, the same as someone who has never worked and never paid tax or NI?

But thats a whole new discussion though, isn't it?

Self employed do get the same or near enough
My problem was is I nevr piad in enough contributions.
so I have no beef with them there
I cant expect something I am not due