DWP, Medicals

azules

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

W had one poster on here who complained that the examiner wasn't a native English speaker and insisted on seeing his medical qualifications. I think that this is the sort of thing that was meant.

The thing is here
I would not know what his credentials should be
so even if he showed me them
I would not know what to look for:rotfl:

azules

Gemstar30 wrote: »

Hello

I have just noticed your reply. How do you mean - making a big deal out of it & being as difficult as possible?

I can be a mouthy cow when the need arises especially if I think I am being treated unfairly. Are you saying that I should keep it 'shut'?

But why, I have rights?

Then you mention about medical reports and things. From what I have been told that you must NOT send anything in beforehand - only if you fail the medical. From other threads I have heard that there is a letter that says this.
Who should you send the reports to and when?

Thank you

Gemma
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Now now
Lets not fall out over an issue that should be helpnig folk
I'm sure he meant no harm toward you Gemma.
I think he was merely pointing out
if you play hard they will treat you with the same respect you show them
not meaning you yourself

cit_k

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

W had one poster on here who complained that the examiner wasn't a native English speaker and insisted on seeing his medical qualifications. I think that this is the sort of thing that was meant.

Not all the doctors or nurses would be that happy to reveal their qualifications.

Not least because they are only generic nurses/Gps (ie no requirement for any speciality, apart from passing a few day disability course ran by the software company ATOS) and it would soon become obvious that many peoples own sources of eivdence (specialsts consultants etc) were far more qalified than them, but because some of those assessors have had, and I quoute their 'approval revoked'.


Also, its vital the assessor and the patient can understand each other, in fact, many subtleties are often spoken in local dialect, and its quite vital a doctor understands what the patient means (never mind the fact the patient has to understand what the doctor is saying).

cit_k

azules wrote: »

Now now
Lets not fall out over an issue that should be helpnig folk
I'm sure he meant no harm toward you Gemma.
I think he was merely pointing out
if you play hard they will treat you with the same respect you show them
not meaning you yourself

The assessors play hard themselves, but they do so in a very friendly (usually) and polite way.

Its only when you get a medical report back full of lies that you realise what they were up to.

In my opinion, they are all (unless they do the report by HAND without the software) unethical and unfit in my opinion to use the term medical professional, simply due to using software that is known to be seriously flawed.

seven-day-weekend

cit_k wrote: »

The assessors play hard themselves, but they do so in a very friendly (usually) and polite way.

Its only when you get a medical report back full of lies that you realise what they were up to.

In my opinion, they are all (unless they do the report by HAND without the software) unethical and unfit in my opinion to use the term medical professional, simply due to using software that is known to be seriously flawed.

You're always saying they tell lies.

What actual LIES have been told (as opposed to misunderstandings or different interpretations)?

FTW

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

You're always saying they tell lies.

What actual LIES have been told (as opposed to misunderstandings or different interpretations)?

Well, there are over a dozen of them on my report alone.

seven-day-weekend

FTW wrote: »

Well, there are over a dozen of them on my report alone.

Such as ? Are they actual LIES? Or only how the claimant has interpreted what was said?

(For example, I have just read on another forum where someone said there were lies on her report because the Dr had said she could attend the medical alone. She said she only attended it alone as there was no-one to come with her. She said she wished to be accompanied. However....she DID attend it alone, this is not lies!).

cit_k

Its not a case of misinterpretation, its outright lies Im talking about.

Such as telling them you have a problem with XYZ and going into detail how XYZ DOES affect you.

Then the report says you stated you do NOT have a problem with XYX.

The report may say you regularily enjoy doing something, when you never stated that, when you even said the exact opposite to the assessor, when you explained it carefully (as you know what they are like).

Some examples include the report saying you can answer the telephone reliably, when in fact, you stated to the assessor you rarely if ever answer the phone due to mental health problems.

Stating you have not overlooked risks due to poor concentration, when in fact you very cleary said that you had, and even went into detail giving examples.

Stating you have not had any potentially dangerous accidents, when you had explained you were electrocuted with mains electricity recently, which is often fatal (but luckily it was not), and not mentioning that at all, nor the fact I walked into a busy construction site on the way there by mistake, causing the workmen to have to alert me to imminent danger.

Stating no problems with sleep etc etc when the problems were discussed in depth.

There is no room for interpretation here, these type of things were outright lies.

And thats only a small selection of the type of lies told on a typical report I get.


Stating
Thats the sort of thing.

Then you get statements that make no sense

seven-day-weekend

Thank you for explaining. I do have a problem with this however. I do find it difficult to believe that medical professional consistently lie to the extent that is claimed on here. I would find it difficult to believe of professionals in any field. I certainly did not lie to the public when I worked in Town Planning, even though they did not always like what I told them. I'm not saying it NEVER happens, but according to people on here, it happens all the time.

Are you sure you didn't just get a crap assessor, who had made mistakes rather than deliberately lied? (Or maybe you got the one in a million who did lie - I just don't believe it always happens).

seven-day-weekend

Just had a thought here, let me give you an example.

I went to the Drs last year and had to make an appointment to see a specialist. The GP explained that I could chose the hospital from a list. When the receptionist showed me the list, I noticed there was a private hospital on it and stated my preference to go there, rather than our local NHS one.

The receptionist did all she could to dissuade me from chosing that hospital. First of all she said it was private. I said,' does that mean I can't go? If so why is it on the list?' She admitted that yes, I could go as an NHS patient, even though it was private, but that 'they might not take me'. I said, 'well can we try?' She then said they wouldn't take anyone with such-and-such conditions. I said it was just as well I hadn't got those conditions then. She then said there wasn't an appointment until the following week (there wasn't one with the NHS hospital for months!). I said,'that's OK I will wait'. She then said, 'well I'll have to speak to Dr (the GP) to ask if you can go'. I said 'OK, do so'. She reluctantly spoke to him, then booked me an appintment.

Now, nowhere here did she tell any lies, but had I not stuck to my guns, I would not have got the result I wished and that was my right to chose. However, someone else who did not stick to their guns may interpret this as the receptionist lying and saying they could not go to this hospital.

Maybe this is the sort of thing that happens sometimes at some of the medicals?