Possible £15 Maplin glitch

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Princess_Coupon wrote: »

Please expand on that

Not really.

Have a look at this site

http://www.sfo.gov.uk

thommy

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

OK. I believe you..........

And the other 5000 & the 3 forums with posters actually encouraging others to defraud....

Any judge would have to be a right mug to not chuck it straight out of court.


As for anyone wanting to make a stand with Maplin on this one, I suggest you don't try that hard just in case they take exception to being fleeced of a few hundred grand.

sorry :rotfl: but maplin would have to take each and every individual to court and prove that each and every individual conspired to defraud. bit of a costly risk, dont you think?
this is not the french resistance, for goodness sake.
i can see it now - maplin - 'please can we have our merchandise back? we were awfully silly and sold it to you too cheaply because of a mistake on our part. if you don't give it back, or pay us the difference the judge will believe us that our mistake was your fault. he'll be awfully cross, not because he's got 5000 identical, individual, cases to deal with today, but because he believes you are guilty of a serious fraud (even though you carried no illegal activities whilst ordering your product) and he'll send you to jail for a very long time.....:rotfl:

1984ReturnsForReal_2

thommy wrote: »

sorry :rotfl: but maplin would have to take each and every individual to court and prove that each and every individual conspired to defraud. :

Maplin wouldn't have to prove anything. The police & CPS would do that.


Make no mistake about it. You deliberately & calculatedly circumvented systems for personal gain which you knew you were not entitled to.

thommy

stolt wrote: »

can see it from both sides tbh, at the end of the day it isnt just £15.00 its £15.00 x thousands possibly, could make them go under and nobody wants to see that!! surely its there right to spot a mistake and not go through with the transaction, i will expect anyone that has the orders will not be chased for the money and it goes down as a mistake with maplin managemet. As i say 9 times out of 10 its doesnt even get to people getting there orders and its probably down to sheer volume that has alerted them. afteral maplin arent that popular are they, there prices arent cheaper than anywhere else and i expect 90% of the orders wouldnt have been made without the voucher!!!:)

thats where i'm sort of coming from. had my order cancelled but it's not really worth chasing it really.
my point is that the consumer can hardly be accused of fraud here and maplin won't have much chance of getting their goods back or payment for the difference.....it was their mistake

thommy

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Maplin wouldn't have to prove anything. The police & CPS would do that.


Make no mistake about it. You deliberately & calculatedly circumvented systems for personal gain which you knew you were not entitled to.

i must be making a mistake because i need you to kindly explain to me how on earth the police, or anybody for that matter, would prove an intent to defraud? where is the circumvention, for example?

tonysat

What about people who may have used their purchase and it is no longer in a returnable position. Not everyone (and I doubt it is 10s of thousands) would have read their email, or...oops, I dropped it, there's lots of bits, ... credit my account with the money then you can come and collect it?

Princess_Coupon

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Not really.

Have a look at this site

http://www.sfo.gov.uk

Thank god my order was cancelled then or I'd have to go on the run. I'll keep an eye out on Crimewatch for the MSErs whose orders did go through.

thommy

Princess_Coupon wrote: »

Thank god my order was cancelled then or I'd have to go on the run. I'll keep an eye out on Crimewatch for the MSErs whose orders did go through.

yeah but we CONSPIRED! isn't that a bit like aiding and abetting a murder?
i've turned the lights off, boarded up the windows. neighbours told me there are armed police outside my house....i'm going down fighting (with my 4 year old's water pistol, i'm afraid).

vickym

Quote taken from the link 1984ReturnsForReal - gave

"Serious Fraud Office (SFO) Criteria

SFO's criteria for taking on a case
By law we can investigate only those cases where there is evidence to show that serious or complex fraud, and corruption has taken place.
To determine the seriousness and complexity of a particular matter then it may be useful to ask yourself the following questions:


The key factors we consider before taking on a case:

• Does the value of the alleged fraud exceed £1 million?
• Is there a significant international dimension?
• Is the case likely to be of widespread public concern?
• Does the case require highly specialised knowledge, e.g. of financial markets?
• Is there a need to use the SFO's special powers, such as Section 2 of the Criminal Justice Act?

Serious and Complex: what do we look for?

In addition to the above criteria we look for factors such as:


Is it Serious?

• Whether the fraud will impact on the integrity of the financial market
• Whether there is a wider group than shareholders or creditors who have lost money as a result of the alleged fraud
• Whether the fraudsters have targeted financial institutions and government (local or central) or other public serving authorities

Is it Complex?

• Whether the case involves multiple countries
• Whether the evidential material to be obtained during the course of the investigation will be found in multiple locations (within the UK or in other countries)
• Whether the case involves multiple and complex financial transactions - e.g. involving many companies, accounts, Trusts and countries
• Whether the investigation will need to involve a large accountancy analysis

So judging by their criteria it would be highly unlikely SFO would get involved .

Also just to point out - when you added the code to the basket it added the freegift - there was no option to remove the discount only the option to remove the freegift.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

thommy wrote: »

yeah but we CONSPIRED! isn't that a bit like aiding and abetting a murder?
i've turned the lights off, boarded up the windows. neighbours told me there are armed police outside my house....i'm going down fighting (with my 4 year old's water pistol, i'm afraid).

No. Fraud is like:

theft
stealing
shoplifting
benefit thieving
robbing a passed out drunk


You know. Taking stuff that doesn't belong to you.


Dress it up how you want Tommy.