Coalition crack on to cutting benefits to Baby Factories

silvercar

Kenny4315 wrote: »

Why don't we put together a list of benefits that these baby factories get :

Child Benefit
Child Tax Credit
Housing Benefit
Free School Meals
Income support
Job Seekers Allowance

Any more and any ideas of the cost. Lets look at 2 adults and 2 kids as typical.

I find it a bit of a struggle to come up with how on earth they get to £26k plus in the first place.

Free dentist, free prescriptions.

Kenny4315

What are the monetary values to this stuff.

silvercar

Well in my area a 2 bed house would be £820 a month LHA that is nearly £10,000 in housing benefit.

Child benefit is something like £20 for the first child and £17 for the second, so that is another £2k a year.

free school meals are worth about £2 a meal I think, so that is another £800.

silvercar

Just used entitled2. assuming £1500 council tax and a 2 bed house with LHA £820 a month:

CTC =5154
IS=5358
council tax=1500
housing ben=9977
child ben=1757
total 23745

plus free prescriptions, dentist and school meals!

Kenny4315

so these lot get income support and child tax credit ??

Don't know why they don't cap at minimum wage * 37 hours * 52 weeks, around the £11500 mark.

olly300

Kenny4315 wrote: »

so these lot get income support and child tax credit ??

Don't know why they don't cap at minimum wage * 37 hours * 52 weeks, around the £11500 mark.

Because those on minimum wage with children get government top ups on rent, free school meals etc.

ruggedtoast

Alan_Cross wrote: »

Not the fault of the Tories' pals in the City, then?

Have you actually slept through the last 3 years, or what?

I'll let George Osbourne answer that.

http://www.conservatives.com/News/Speeches/2010/02/George_Osborne_Unleashing_the_forces_of_enterprise.aspx

There is one thing Gordon Brown said that has turned out to be true. I only came across it the other day.
It comes from a speech he gave to an audience of bankers in 2002, and this is what he said:
"What you, as the City of London, have achieved for financial services we, as a government, now aspire to achieve for the whole economy."
Well Gordon, congratulations - that’s one promise you did keep.
You created a Britain where the bailed out banks pay million pound bonuses to the few, while the many see their incomes fall and their opportunities disappear.
So we will talk about Labour’s past record because it is a guide to the present.
For the man who gave us:
- the pensions raid
- the stealth taxes
- the double counting
- the phoney fiscal rules
- the gold sales at the bottom of the market
- that 10p tax con

The Tories havent been in power for the last decade, Labour has.

Maybe you slept through the last 13 years.

ess0two

FATBALLZ wrote: »

They usually have 'disabled' kids who are a nice little earner.

P iss poor,no one sets out to have disabled children.

Percy1983

ess0two wrote: »

P iss poor,no one sets out to have disabled children.

You would be amazed how many do.

olly300

ess0two wrote: »

P iss poor,no one sets out to have disabled children.

Unfortunately some parents from all socio-economic classes have reasons to get at least one of their children labelled as disabled or as special needs.