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child eating issues at wits end

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  • iamana1ias
    iamana1ias Posts: 3,777 Forumite
    Tish_P wrote: »
    Perhaps you should pop over and correct the USDA nutrient database then, iamana1ias.
    http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/cgi-bin/list_nut_edit.pl

    I don't need to go so far ;)

    http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/calories-in-food/breakfast-cereals/Quaker-Scotts-Porridge-Oats.htm
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  • nickyhutch
    nickyhutch Posts: 7,596 Forumite
    I think what OP is doing is fine but I do have a friend who's health visitor practically accused her of child abuse for keeping her austistic child out of the kitchen for similar safety reasons. The health visitor told her that she should never lock her child out of anywhere and to sleep on the floor outside his room. I think it was bad advice. She was very upset and felt like a bad Mum because of it and I did not want OP to get the same treatment.

    That means that that particular health visitor gave bad advice. Health Visitors don't have a overarching ban on locking stuff up. I work with HVs and hate the way one poor HV means all of a sudden they're all crap.

    Sorry, rant over.
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  • Tish_P
    Tish_P Posts: 812 Forumite
    Strangely, the only scientific paper I can find in support of "carbohydrate addiction" is by Dr R Heller and Dr R Heller, husband-and-wife team and the authors of several diet books. The paper is published in the controversial, non-peer-reviewed journal "Medical Hypotheses".
  • massive hugs!
    My best friend had exactly the same thing with her son from about 2-4 it was only when he started preschool that he changed and managed to go the 2.5hrs without eating. How does your child cope at Nursery?
    It was so soul destroying watching my bf's son he would just constantly be eating or begging/crying/howling for food if he wasnt, you could barely have a conversation some times he dominated everything and all to do with food. She had other children who never did it. She said he was like it from birth (he was 11lbs) with milk then on 3 meals a day plus deserts at 5 months. Luckily at nearly 6 he is stocky but still classed as a normal height/weight.

    When i had my 2nd son and he was bigger(11lb 10oz) i was so worried he would be the same but he wasnt so it must have been phscological rather that genuinly starving due to size.
  • far2812
    far2812 Posts: 919 Forumite
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    Again I echo the prader willie suggestion! Please mention it to your GP. It is quite difficult to diagnose

    Does your child have any other symptoms ie. growth issues height wise?
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  • don't prader willie babies usually 'fail to thrive' as babies as they have less muscle tone in their bobies and find it harder to suck-quite often (from my research) they end up being tube fed.
    Howevere the having to lock cupboards does sound like PW, people with PW will also hunt through bin and eat unedible things such as nice fuirty smelling bubble bath. People with PW generally are alot floppier and have less muscle definition than others-how active is your little boy?

    Also fom working with people with PW giving them bowls of lettuce or frozen yougurts to eat sometimes helped (don't give cereal bars).

    and just in case anyone is wondering what Prader willie is -its a genetic condition that affects the 15th chromosome, the person feels hungry constantly and wants to eat constantly as they always feel hungry-think how you feel when your 'starving', thats how they feel all the time, because they feel this way there is no reasoning with them-as they feel starving and can be behavourial difficutlies.
  • moomoomama27
    moomoomama27 Posts: 3,823 Forumite
    jay_mi10 wrote: »
    No he is only really in on a monday.. we go to visit people on a tuesday nan ect and go to the park, wed, thurs, fri he is at nursery saturday we either go to relatives or out for the day and sunday he goes to a football class

    He's very active then! Was just a thought, as you never know!

    I guess if the medical complaints are ruled out, you are stuck with a hungry child! My brother was much the same ate all the time, and I mean all the time, even now he does, he must have a super fast metabolism.

    How about trying things like fresh fruit juice frozen into those lolly holders. Things that are good for him but will take him a while to get through frozen banana, frozen yoghurt etc..
  • fsdss
    fsdss Posts: 1,429 Forumite
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    do you have a sure start near you? some of them employ lifestyle coaches and nutritionalists on a part time basis. armed with a food diary you would get a quicker referral to a paediatrician or dietician if needed.

    Gp's have to pay for a referral to hospitals, and often they will only do this as a last resort
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  • I feel alot more incontrol tonight thanks so much. I have gone an bought a notepad and laid it out ready for the nursery staff to fill in i have included the following headings:

    Breakfast
    time
    amount

    lunch
    time
    amount

    tea
    time
    amount

    snacks
    time
    amount

    comments/ times food is brought up/ requested :





    signed:


    Is this sufficiant? I will also fill these diary pages out. I have spoken to my partner and we have agreed to not bring it up, try some higher protein foods and new meal plans, but also i dont know if this is the right thing but we are going to keep to mealtimes which we already do but introduce a specific snack time. We are going to do this will a fun alarm clock and set it to go off inbetween breakfast and lunch and then again between lunch and tea time. Does anyone think this is a stupid idea?? Im hoping if it is a behaviour/bordom issue this will reintroduce a strict structure into snacking so he becomes more aware of waiting instead of asking constantly.
    We are also going to try distracting him with different activities when he brings up food after he has say for example just eating and cant possibly be hungry.

    I hope we get to the bottom of it :( Thanks so much for helping I will keep updating this.
    Heres to a better day tomorrow
  • Vaila
    Vaila Posts: 6,301 Forumite
    at the end of the day, you are the parent and the authourity, it really shoild be you that has the final say ie if he asks for seconds say no, and hopefully if you continue refusing him but still giving him a healthy diet it will become the norm , sorry to be blunt but thats my opinion
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