child eating issues at wits end

iamana1ias

gunsandbanjos wrote: »

Good advice here, maybe some things that take longer to eat aswell? Like carrot sticks or other veggies. Maybe wouldnt go for the jelly as its sweet even though it will be low cal. Yoghurts etc are easy to eat so will be gone quicker.

Good luck!

And full of nasty artificial sweeteners

OP, you mention lots of carby food. Is your child getting enough protein? Protein makes you feel full, and if you don't get enough you'll be hungry more often.

mummyofboys

Yeah on a daily basis, He has for example porridge and fruit mainly raspberries blueberries on top

Lunch would be jacket potatoe beans, pitta bread houmous and chicken , omlette, soups

and then with dinner we always have some sort of meat examples
spag bol, lamb sunday dinner, casseroles, chicken stir frys and a nursery which he is there 3 days per week the menu is

Breakfast Menu

Wednesday Milk Weetabix with bananas

Thursday Milk Readybrek with honey and warmed milk

Friday Milk Porridge with mixed

lunch

Wednesday Ratatouille with aubergines
and courgettes served with
shredded leeks in a cheese
sauce

Baked apples & sultanas

Thursday Saffron cous cous with grilled
sausages, raisins, chic peas &
mixed vegetables

Fresh fruit salad

Friday Poached cod topped with
parsley sauce, new potatoes,
carrots and peas

Rice pudding with stewed

rhubarb

Tea

Wednesday Carrot & orange soup and Irish
soda bread

Bananas & pears

Thursday Homemade herbed potato
wedges with an assortment of
dips

Strawberries & Ice cream

Friday Spinach risotto
Oranges & apples

one of the weekly nursery menus

iamana1ias

jay_mi10 wrote: »

Yeah on a daily basis, He has for example porridge and fruit mainly raspberries blueberries on top - all carb, next to no protein

Lunch would be jacket potatoe beans - all carb, next to no protein, pitta bread houmous and chicken - really good,
omlette, - really good,
soups - all carb, next to no protein

and then with dinner we always have some sort of meat examples
spag bol, lamb sunday dinner, casseroles, chicken stir frys - depending on the ratio and quality of protein to other ingredients these could all be high or low in protein

and a nursery which he is there 3 days per week the menu is

Breakfast Menu

Wednesday Milk Weetabix with bananas - all carb, next to no protein

Thursday

Milk Readybrek with honey and warmed milk - all carb, next to no protein

Friday Milk Porridge with mixed fruit? - all carb, next to no protein

lunch

Wednesday

Ratatouille with aubergines
and courgettes served with
shredded leeks in a cheese
sauce - all carb, next to no protein

Baked apples & sultanas - all carb, no protein

Thursday

Saffron cous cous with grilled
sausages, raisins, chic peas &
mixed vegetables - all carb, next to no protein (unless sausages are very high meat content)

Fresh fruit salad - all carb, no protein

Friday

Poached cod topped with
parsley sauce, new potatoes,
carrots and peas - better, but still carby

Rice pudding with stewed

rhubarb - all carb, next to no protein

Tea

Wednesday

Carrot & orange soup and Irish
soda bread - all carb, next to no protein

Bananas & pears - all carb, next to no protein

Thursday

Homemade herbed potato
wedges with an assortment of
dips - all carb, no protein

Strawberries & Ice cream - all carb, no protein

Friday Spinach risotto - all carb, no protein
Oranges & apples - all carb, no protein

one of the weekly nursery menus

It's probably less than 5% protein. I really think this may be part of the issue.

snugglepet20

This does sound like a medical issue and you have done the right thing seeing a doctor. This could be any number of things from psychological, genetic or physical problems and that is why you are being referred to so many people to cover all the possible scenarios. Try not to be angry with your son as it sounds as though it may be something he cannot control and therefore he cannot please you by stopping it IYSWIM.

Be prepared you might get a grilling from the health visitor re the locks as locking things is very much frowned upon by them. Explain why you are doing this and that you have his interests at heart and it is no good if he goes to cook himself something in the middle of the night and chokes, burns the house down or gasses you all and if you are asleep you cannot hear him and that you are entitled to sleep! Good luck and fingers crossed it is something that can be fixed.

nickyhutch

snugglepet20 wrote: »

This does sound like a medical issue and you have done the right thing seeing a doctor. This could be any number of things from psychological, genetic or physical problems and that is why you are being referred to so many people to cover all the possible scenarios. Try not to be angry with your son as it sounds as though it may be something he cannot control and therefore he cannot please you by stopping it IYSWIM.

Be prepared you might get a grilling from the health visitor re the locks as locking things is very much frowned upon by them. Explain why you are doing this and that you have his interests at heart and it is no good if he goes to cook himself something in the middle of the night and chokes, burns the house down or gasses you all and if you are asleep you cannot hear him and that you are entitled to sleep! Good luck and fingers crossed it is something that can be fixed.

No, it isn't. It's fine to lock things away, especially if there's a risk to the child, which, in this case (sneaking down at night alone, choking risk) there is. Locking stuff away (and not just food) is a way of setting boundaries.

mummyofboys

Locks was a must, we had an incident with 999 a few months back where he choked on a sweet and had to have the procedure done to him to get it out.. I have been very scared since then, so i feel locking at night until i get up is in his best intrest... It is not locked in the day.. I dont think they could argue this point? The record of choking would be on his file, to justify my concerns?

The High carb thing is really intresting.. sorry if I sound thick but is there any pointers as to what I can add? I do try and mix things up and give meat at least every evening meal... He does also have alot of sandwitches at lunch... How can I improve any tips would be great..

As for annoyed with him, its not that its more of a case of being utterly knackered.. and just feeling the strain especially with my other youngester and then trying to do this course. I just feel I have a million people pulling me

MrsRogers

Lots of things to try here. One thing to maybe be careful of is 'making a big issue of food'. I know you are frustrated and its difficult but the more focus on food (ie not having it) the more people want it. I also feel it could cause a long term issue with food... I know it did for me (Food has always been my friend and my nemesis)

It does sound like his body is craving something. The protein advice I think is a must to try... (Found this if it helps give you ideas)


Chicken Breast – 3.5 oz., 30 grams of protein (Go with the 99% fat-free boneless, skinless variety for the leanest choice.)
Turkey – About 7 grams of protein per ounce
Tuna – 6 oz. can, 40 grams of protein
Salmon – 3.5 oz., 27 grams of protein
Eggs – 1 large, 7 grams of protein
Milk – 1 cup, 8 grams of protein (Go with 1% or skim)
Cottage Cheese – 1/2 cup, 15 grams of protein
Almonds, Peanuts, Cashews – 1/4 cup, 8grams, 9 grams, 5 grams of protein
Peanut Butter – 2 Tablespoons, 8 grams of protein
Yogurt – 8-12 grams of protein per cup

Just another thought... do you give him the same types of food / meals? Maybe worth trying different types of meals incorporate lots of variety. See if some combinations keep him more satisfied then others.

Tish_P

Animal protein is not the only protein. Beans, pulses and grains, including rice and wheat, contain protein. I think that menu looks very healthy.

edited to add: I'm not saying it isn't worth a go providing the higher protein foods suggested above. Just that "porridge contains next to no protein" is false. Oats are close to 20% protein, and if the porridge is made with milk that adds even more.

Firefly

Prada Willi should be discounted. Please make sure you ask them to consider this.

mummyofboys

I do try and alternate the menu definatley.. I also just want to point out that he will actually eat a whole plate of food, and then continue to ask for more even after seconds, or if i gave him a bigger portion .... this is literally straight after... its not a case of being hungry an hour or two after food.