This is what the Tories are really like

tr3mor

shortchanged wrote: »

Why the hell does 1 person want so much money anyway? Sickening really.

Just goes to show how greedy the human race can be. Personally I don't know how these people sleep at night knowing there is so much poverty all over the world while they stockpile massive amounts of money for themselves.

Alternatively, he could just want more of his money to contribute to the numerous charities he's involved with. Rather than handing it all over to waste on public sector bureaucracy.

http://www.lordashcroft.com/charities/index.html

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1984ReturnsForReal_2

tr3mor wrote: »

Alternatively, he could just want more of his money to contribute to the numerous charities he's involved with. Rather than handing it all over to waste on public sector bureaucracy.

http://www.lordashcroft.com/charities/index.html

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Of course he hands over as much to charity as he avoids in tax

tr3mor

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Of course he hands over as much to charity as he avoids in tax

I suppose you're right, he is an evil b*stard Tory afterall.

It's not like anything good has ever come from, say, founding Crimestoppers.

Generali

StevieJ wrote: »

Faith in humankind should be rejuvenated a little by this.

America's ultra-rich are queuing to join in a grand gesture of generosity. Forty US billionaires have signed up to pledge at least half of their fortunes to charity under a philanthropic campaign kicked off by Warren Buffett and Bill Gates.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/aug/04/us-billionaires-half-fortune-gates

I find this amazing. You could set up your family to be one of the most powerful and rich in the world for centuries with this money or you could do something amazing for your fellow man. 40 of the very richest have agreed to give most of their money away. I feel proud of myself for raising a couple of grand each year! Time for a rethink perhaps.

lostinrates

ukcarper wrote: »

It might be but when you’re earning £15k a year and some millionaire is paying less tax than you are it does grind a bit.

TBH it still grates if you income is higher and you are on PAYE.

tomterm8

Generali wrote: »

I find this amazing. You could set up your family to be one of the most powerful and rich in the world for centuries with this money or you could do something amazing for your fellow man. 40 of the very richest have agreed to give most of their money away. I feel proud of myself for raising a couple of grand each year! Time for a rethink perhaps.

Maybe this is just the cynic in me, but is there anything stopping them setting the charity up so his relatives remain in substantial control of the money, earning a very good salary, and using the charity funds to buy power and politicians?

Historically speaking, very rich individuals have used trusts, charities, and etc to bind up the money so their idiotic decendants can't waste it all.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

tr3mor wrote: »

I suppose you're right, he is an evil b*stard Tory afterall.

It's not like anything good has ever come from, say, founding Crimestoppers.

So its okay to rob a pensioner of their life savings so long as you put £1 in the paupers box at Christmas?


I have no opinion on Ashcroft, unlike the BBC who have totally ignored & have always ignored Blairs avoidance.


I, however, am firmly of the opinion that if the subject is the avoidance of tax, the fractional cost of that bit of good should be looked at in the context of the subject & the amount of tax avoided. You on the other hand seem to want to use it as a get out of jail free card for Ashcroft.

If Ashcroft was "good" he would use every single penny avoided for "good" instead of funding his lifestyle.

Its a bit like Blair donating all his profits from his book. He is not donating all the revenue he has pocketed from the war which would be many millions over that of any book sales. Perhaps Blair sees that percentage donation as equal to the percentage of guilt & responsibility he feels.


There you go. Unbiased. As always.

shortchanged_2

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Of course he hands over as much to charity as he avoids in tax

Or perhaps it is something to do with this.

http://www.cafonline.org/default.aspx?page=17381

ultrawomble

shortchanged wrote: »

Or perhaps it is something to do with this.

http://www.cafonline.org/default.aspx?page=17381

I thought that applied to taxpayers

1984ReturnsForReal_2

shortchanged wrote: »

Or perhaps it is something to do with this.

http://www.cafonline.org/default.aspx?page=17381

Doubt it.


Its his own self justification for depriving say £100m in tax & giving £5m to charity.


Meaning, of course, you keep £95m in your pocket, go down well in the upper class popularity contests & buy a one way ticket to heaven.


That & the fact that when you are on your death bed your last thoughts are not that you were a miserly little thief who did everything you could to stuff others.


But like I said. Its for the Government to change the law, not for the avoider to stop avoiding.