Ed Miliband wins Labour Leadership

markharding557

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Rantings of a labourite

Yay! The Labour party just voted themselved out of power for the next electoral term. Have to be careful though, David could be their second choice when they ditch Ed... and the force is strong in that one.

Rantings of a tory:D

Butterfly_Brain

Too much of a closet liberal for my liking

marklv

amcluesent wrote: »

Ed Miliband's policies

TAX
Wants to increase tax on the rich, keep 50 per cent top rate permanently and impose a new £5 billion a year tax on banks.

ECONOMY
Backs a "responsible" opposition to coalition cuts, and wants more emphasis on tax rises. Backs creation of a "living wage" of £7.60 an hour, as a minimum. Wants government to actively encourage growth industries.

FOREIGN/DEFENCE
Says UK should not automatically follow the US path on global affairs, and that Labour should no longer defend Iraq war decision. Believes Afghanistan "cannot be a war without end" and that negotiations must begin with the Taleban in Afghanistan.

ENVIRONMENT
Wants international binding climate emissions cuts and a Green investment bank.

LAW and ORDER
Backs plans to replace jail with community sentences

FACT - Truly in thrall to international Marxism.

Some of his views, such as tax and the economy, as well as foreign policy, are laudable. On law and order, and the environment, he is clearly loopy.

GeneHunt_2

marklv wrote: »

Elections are not necessarily won from the centre - look at 1945! Labour was a lot more left wing than now and still won a landslide. Even under Harold Wilson Labour was much more to the left than the current lot, including Ed Miliband. Politics should be about giving people choice, not pushing essentially the same policies under different hats. Otherwise it's just a beauty contest.

Ok - you've got your left wing candidate and obviously don't care that I can't bring myself to vote for him. Enjoy.

GeneHunt_2

marklv wrote: »

Rubbish. There are already thousands of unemployed skilled IT people in Britain, whose jobs have been taken by overseas outsourcers. The skills largely exist in abundance, and where they don't the knowledge can be imparted in training courses. The real problem is this obseession with driving down costs - at any cost.

Are you talking about companies or governments?

GeneHunt_2

Kohoutek wrote: »

Presumably the commission would lay down guidelines how private companies are allowed to compensate their employees. But bigger overheads on compliance related activities is not really what the private sector needs right now, or ever.

How true that is. That's why I won't be able to vote for him. That and not paying down the deficit....or rather "not" paying down the deficit.

hilla_2

GeneHunt wrote: »

and sadly Ed doesn't seem to believe that there is any urgency in cutting spending - which shows you that you can have a first class in degree and still be thick..... but I doubt his degree was in Economics...

it was actually PPE

hilla_2

markharding557 wrote: »

If the conservatives didn't see ed miliband as a potential threat they would not be so desperate to paint the labour leader as being far left(which he isn't)
I think as time goes on he will make a formidable opponent against cameron.

I agree with you

Radiantsoul

marklv wrote: »

Some of his views, such as tax and the economy, as well as foreign policy, are laudable. On law and order, and the environment, he is clearly loopy.

I doubt he is going to close all jails.

StevieJ

Kohoutek wrote: »

Ed Miliband seems to be member of the creed that government is the answer to everything. Why else would he support crazy ideas like this:



http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jun/10/ed-miliband-pay-differentials-private-sector

Presumably the commission would lay down guidelines how private companies are allowed to compensate their employees. But bigger overheads on compliance related activities is not really what the private sector needs right now, or ever.

I think it has a simple answer, he was after Union votes, look how Cleggy has become a hatchet wielding Tory after a sniff of power