Train Fare-No ticket fine - please help!

Livingthedream

Stigy wrote: »

Wow, I must have forgotten about this one!

So did I, but it's nice that the OP has updated us.

Stigy wrote: »

We're only talking civil law if the TOC choses to prosecute the unpaid UFN itself, and doesn't cancel it and use the Byelaws instead. I fail to see why anybody would prosecute a Civil case when they could prosecute for a Criminal one.

I think you misunderstood what I was getting at Stigy, I was just explaining the difference between a UFN and a byelaw, how one is civil and the other criminal.

Stigy wrote: »

No, if they're a true fare evader the Byelaws shouldn't enter the equation, and the offender should be prosecuted under S.5.3(a) Regulation of Railways Act 1889.

IMHO anybody that gets prosecuted via RRA1889 or Byelaw 18.1 is classed as a fare evader. I know technically its not correct but it is my opinion.

poorgirl-54 wrote: »

....so a quick update and yes- its 6 months on im still fighting with them and its still not resolved.

As you suggested i sent them a letter saying i was happy to see them in court, and then they sent a letter back, saying they are looking into it. Then IRCAS sent me another letter stating i have to pay £166.50 by 30th Novemeber or they will take further action - which i haven't paid. And in the letter they wrote i must write to passenger focus and so they can put a case on my behalf and if they agree with them or me.

In the mean time i sent a letter to East Coast trains, they sent me a letter saying call us back- which i didnt.

So im back at square one, i dont want to pay the fine and i cannot pay it, i paid for the ticket and this is a never ending nightmare.

Any advice please ?

Phone East Coast and see what they got to say, be polite and explain everything from your point of view, you never know what they might say or do.

Write a letter back to IRCAS acknowledging their letter but that you disagree with their decision.

Basically what I'm trying to say is keep talking to them, oh yes thank you for updating us.

poorgirl-54

Thanks for that- that was a great response- stigy and livingthedream -
i will send yet another letter disagreeing with them..