Money Moral Dilemma: Should I sell her my car?

inicholson

Also... while your in the Post Office cashing in your road tax, get a form to apply for a licence. Give it to her with the V5 and point out the fee is a hell of a lot less than she saved on the car - more than enough to insure it.

There's lots of legitimate reasons why she might not have a licence but I must admit I'd assume she's had it taken away if she isn't willing to fill in a form for a replacement. In which case she's about to lose £650 when they impound the car for being untaxed. Point this out gently before you take her money.

weeone30

There is two choices you either dont sell her the car and find another buyer, or if she has the money to buy the car, sell it to her but if she has every intention of driving it, i would report her annonomysly to the police as soon as she drives off in it. You could also try asking her if she has no licence or insurance what she intends to do with the car and if she says use then i wouldnt sell it to her. You could also try having a word with a local policeman to find out where you would stand if she was caught with the vechile and it was proven you sold it to her while you knew she had no licence or insurance for the car. Would you get into trouble?, There are so many accidents and people killed due to un insured drivers or drivers who has no licence and they are always someones mother, father, daughter, son or relative, I wouldnt do it personally, not if i actively knew she had no licence or insurance. Can you be 100% sure she doesnt have a licence because she lost it and not renewed it or has it been taken from her? if she has offered £1,500 she can afford to insure the car and if she says she wont then that would make me think there is something she is not telling you ie she doesnt have a licence possibly due to a disqualification and therefore wont get insurance, either way she is not being honest and therefore doesnt deserve to be on the road

Eric_Pisch

MattieCat wrote: »

Yes, sell her the car and tell her that a condition of sale is that you will tell the relevant authorities unless she provides herself with the necessary legal requirements for owning a car.

there are none, even babys can own cars

however to use a car on a road it needs to be taxed, insured, mot'd and the driver have a valid license

she may want to learn to drive, an old croc for £650 is perfect, i would sell it

hazyjo

angelccc wrote: »

How about if I sell someone a screw driver and that person killed someone with it. Would I be held responsible ???

No. Of course not.

But if you needed a license to use a screwdriver, and you had to pay for air-tax for waving it round, and a yearly check-up to make sure it was safe and fit for purpose - and someone told me they wanted to buy my screwdriver but didn't have any of the above and had no intention of getting them, then nope, I definitely wouldn't sell.

If I didn't know, fine. Probably not something you'd want proof of before selling it. But if someone volunteered the information, I'd then have to say no. Couldn't live with myself if I knew someone had told me they'd take risks with something I'd owned and knowingly sold to them.

If she had a spare £1500 to wave around or buy a car with, she can probably afford to get a taxi home every night.

Don't see why the rest of us should have to effectively pay for someone else to have a free bl**dy ride.

Jx

fruugal

It really isn't your problem if the dancer has or has not got insurance or a current driving license unless you have adopted a position of looking after her.

However, you are in a dilemma because you will know that she has neither of these legal requirements.

As she offered you £1500 and you only want £650 for the car, you could offer to help her get insurance and reapply for her licence, so that your mind is unburdened, and she could do it all for the money she intended to spend on the car and even pay for a driver for the period before her new license comes through. She may well have to sit another test or run through a series of proofs of where she's been and why she didn't renew. I don't know the DVLA procedures for that.

Badger_Lady

inicholson wrote: »

Give it to her with the V5 and point out the fee is a hell of a lot less than she saved on the car - more than enough to insure it.

I wouldn't be so sure - as per my last post, exotic dancers have to take out specialist insurance since most mainstream insurers won't cover their occupation. Combine that with the fact that she may have oustanding claims on her history... can you imagine the premiums if anyone even would provide cover?

It's quite rare for an exotic dancer to be out of her twenties, so any premium WILL be thousands of pounds.

JayD

Yes, this really is a dilemma
Not sure how close a neighbourly relationship you have with this lady - and we all like to avoid unpleasantness, especially on our doorstep. But if it is really troubling you, then I think honesty is the best policy. Tell her that you cannot in all concience sell her the car now that she has told you she intends to drive it illegally. This is for her sake, for the sake of other road users and because it would just worry you too much. Apologise and tell her that there are probably lots of other second hand cars out there but she will find that no legitimate dealer will sell to her without insurance either.

Short answer - I would NOT sell her the car.
Advertise it and get it sold to someone else quick!

signol

Once you send the paperwork off to the DVLA, they will check it for insurance / driving license anyway, so whether you shop her or not, the authorities will be aware of it.

signol

forkinell

JODDY wrote: »

Being a stickler for rules then no I wouldn't sell her the car. It puts everyone who uses the road at risk.

What rules are you talking about exactly ?? There are no rules on selling a car regarding an obligation on the sellers part to assure legal compliance on the buyers part. You seem to want to cut your nose off to spite your face.
I kinda wonder if you are one of those women who when marrying their husband made the vow of 'love , honour and obey' then takes no notice when he tells you what to do ?
I'd sell the stripper the car - ask for a some free services chucked in with the deal then shop her to the cops. Everyone's a winner - mainly me, which is the way i like it.

money_honey

The bottom line is - you KNOW what she is planning to do and can you in all honestly say that you would still be willing to sell her the car? The fact that you are even asking the question seems to me like you know that you shouldn't sell her the car. Don't do it. If she hadn't told you what she planned to do then fine, you wouldn't know and she would be just like any other buyer. But the fact that she has told you... I wouldn't be able to sell it with a clear conscience anyway.

You may want to look at the direct gov site (motoring section, insurance, uninsured drivers), just a few notes on what she would face if she was caught driving without a licence. It might not be of any help in your decision but you never know!