Me "I want referral back to Rheummy", Doc "Not a chance"

hannahO_2

I wonder how much it cost for a surgery to refer a patient to a specialist clinic in a hospital? Or even if a sugery has an allowance budget per patient? It seems there are quite a few people having problems not been referred to even though they have reasonable reasons to request it. Surgeries on a tight budget but patients are not looked after properly. It's all about £££ and not about health now a days, is it!?

One time, they didn't have my blood test results (lost?) so I asked if I could have it again. GP complained to me that a full blood test costs like £500. In the end, the results didn't come through the normal computer link but *apparently* dictated over the phone. When I asked for a copy of my results, I was told it was not in my record and they stopped communicating with me.

Penny-Pincher!!

Do you pay into HSA or anything like that? They would contribute towards a private consultation to see a Rhumy if needed.

TBH, if it were me, I would pay private to see a Rhumy (approx £150), then most will move you over to NHS if they think you're genuinely ill.

PP
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thelastunicorn

Codeine withdrawal and abuse causes diarrhoea and stomach pain; you're only meant to take codeine for a maximum of three days and for acute problems, not twenty of them a month, and your GP should know this.

You've self-diagnosed fibro, so - from all your internet research - you should know that all it means is "generalised pain with no known cause". You have also self-diagnosed hypermobility.

IBS, fibro and hypermobility are typical self-diagnoses achieved by people who spend FAR too much time on the internet obsessing over their health. Having aches and pains occasionally is normal. Having bowel pain when you are abusing an opiate is normal. Having bowel pain without the codeine abuse probably indicates that your diet is lacking.

Stop wasting GP's time and bullying them for referrals! They are bloody well overworked as it is, and you'll be the ones complaining when you go to hospital for something that's actually important and can't have more than two minutes with a specialist because they've got an appointment with a hypochondriac, referred by their GP so they'd stop having to see them every single week.

But when the specialist denies you have a condition, even THAT is not good enough; you're still convinced, and pursue more doctors, more specialists, and absorb more internet advice until you know the condition so well that you describe it convincingly enough to hoodwink a medical professional into giving you painkillers and letting you claim benefits for something you don't even have.

You should be getting some counselling or a hobby.

pwales_2

thelastunicorn wrote: »

Codeine withdrawal and abuse causes diarrhoea and stomach pain; you're only meant to take codeine for a maximum of three days and for acute problems, not twenty of them a month, and your GP should know this.

You've self-diagnosed fibro, so - from all your internet research - you should know that all it means is "generalised pain with no known cause". You have also self-diagnosed hypermobility.

IBS, fibro and hypermobility are typical self-diagnoses achieved by people who spend FAR too much time on the internet obsessing over their health. Having aches and pains occasionally is normal. Having bowel pain when you are abusing an opiate is normal. Having bowel pain without the codeine abuse probably indicates that your diet is lacking.

Stop wasting GP's time and bullying them for referrals! They are bloody well overworked as it is, and you'll be the ones complaining when you go to hospital for something that's actually important and can't have more than two minutes with a specialist because they've got an appointment with a hypochondriac, referred by their GP so they'd stop having to see them every single week.

But when the specialist denies you have a condition, even THAT is not good enough; you're still convinced, and pursue more doctors, more specialists, and absorb more internet advice until you know the condition so well that you describe it convincingly enough to hoodwink a medical professional into giving you painkillers and letting you claim benefits for something you don't even have.

You should be getting some counselling or a hobby.

nail on the head!
internet research then symtoms to doctor then few months later dla claim:mad:

Trialia

thelastunicorn wrote: »

Codeine withdrawal and abuse causes diarrhoea and stomach pain; you're only meant to take codeine for a maximum of three days and for acute problems, not twenty of them a month, and your GP should know this.

FYI, I am on codeine (and morphine) for chronic pain - fibromyalgia and hypermobility-type Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, not self-diagnosed - and my base prescription is more than 20 a month, though I try not to take that much. I get no withdrawal symptoms, and my stomach pain and other digestive issues existed before they even gave me the codeine. What the codeine tends to cause more often than diarrhoea is constipation, just like most other opioids.

So please, don't spout off about things you don't know enough about.

As for the rest, it takes an average minimum of three years to be correctly diagnosed if you do have fibromyalgia, so I wouldn't use that as a definite that the poster does not, nor the other. It took me more than ten years to be given a diagnosis for the chronic joint pain and dislocations I've been enduring since early childhood, even an inaccurate one (which they later corrected). Not all doctors are infallible or right first time.

hannahO_2

*sigh* There are too many of those people who are narrow minded, without knowing any background information, jump to a conclusion about a person. Hence Trialia is accused of prescription med addict! These people have no compassion, even if someone is on a wheelchair they will think that the person is pretending :mad:

Trialia

hannahO wrote: »

*sigh* There are too many of those people who are narrow minded, without knowing any background information, jump to a conclusion about a person. Hence Trialia is accused of prescription med addict! These people have no compassion, even if someone is on a wheelchair they will think that the person is pretending :mad:

I don't think I was the one being accused this time, but thank you for standing up for me, regardless.

As for the pretending part, oh I'm so tired of strangers assuming I carry a walking stick and drag my feet to be in fashion because I'm young. Ageist and ableist.

Indie_Kid

thelastunicorn wrote: »

Codeine withdrawal and abuse causes diarrhoea and stomach pain; you're only meant to take codeine for a maximum of three days and for acute problems, not twenty of them a month, and your GP should know this.

Why would a GP prescribe more then?

IBS, fibro and hypermobility are typical self-diagnoses achieved by people who spend FAR too much time on the internet obsessing over their health. Having aches and pains occasionally is normal. Having bowel pain when you are abusing an opiate is normal. Having bowel pain without the codeine abuse probably indicates that your diet is lacking.

Sorry, but this is rubbish - I have been told by 2 different GPs that I have IBS.

cally6008

In 2004, all my pains and problems started. I was literally walking one foot in front of another, very slowly and could not stand without leaning against something. (think old woman stooped over n shuffling along without moving her feet very far). I was like this for 3 years. Then I left my full time job, took some time out and my health slowly improved although not to the point of pre-2004 which was pain free and fully active.

Several doctors later ...

In August 2010, my doc told me I was having an irritable bowel syndrome flare up. This was after me having excruiating stomach pains within minutes of eating anything. I did not know what was wrong and only seen him after symptoms carried on for 10 days. I did not self diagnose myself.

In Sept 2009, my doc said I had fibro. He prescribed codeine. I am now on my 3rd lot of 100 since Sept 2009.

In Sept 2010, my doc now says he only thinks I may have fibro.

Anyways I dont have to explain myself to you

SingleSue

Trialia wrote: »

FYI, I am on codeine (and morphine) for chronic pain - fibromyalgia and hypermobility-type Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, not self-diagnosed - and my base prescription is more than 20 a month, though I try not to take that much. I get no withdrawal symptoms, and my stomach pain and other digestive issues existed before they even gave me the codeine. What the codeine tends to cause more often than diarrhoea is constipation, just like most other opioids.

So please, don't spout off about things you don't know enough about.

As for the rest, it takes an average minimum of three years to be correctly diagnosed if you do have fibromyalgia, so I wouldn't use that as a definite that the poster does not, nor the other. It took me more than ten years to be given a diagnosis for the chronic joint pain and dislocations I've been enduring since early childhood, even an inaccurate one (which they later corrected). Not all doctors are infallible or right first time.

I've also been prescribed codeine and at more than 20 a month by my GP, again, not that I take anywhere near that much because I don't like the muzzy feeling it gives me and I like to have a clear head to drive, so I only take it when I know I am not going to be driving for a good while (contrary to how the doctor wanted me to take it, naughty me is still taking the ibuprofen but a lot less than before and just putting up with the pain)

I have diagnosed spinal arthritis and hypermobility and find out tomorrow if anything else nasty is going on....nothing self diagnosed.