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Nicky321

melancholly wrote: »

Nicky321 - your son's story sounds very stressful and difficult - what it does show, though, is that if you tell the uni about mitigating circumstances before deadlines, they can be supportive. unfortunately, the OP didn't do this and will therefore now be fighting an uphill battle.

I agree, keeping the uni informed is vital, but my son had actually missed his first deadline by approximately 3 - 4 months, because he wouldnt admit his problems, before I actually became aware.

stephyt23

puresiesta wrote: »

I never said it was 9 months before i went to see my GP. My GP only stated that I had these symptons since janruary because That's what I told them. I also told them that it only really affected my academic performance from april onwards. I went to see the GP at the end of July and was in contact with a student councellor at the start of July.

Now it sounds like you're contradicting yourself. You've just said yourself you GP told you that you'd had symptoms since January because that's what YOU told your GP. Therefore I'm still seeing it as you went 9 months before seeing your GP knowing you were ill!

bestpud

Nicky321 wrote: »

I agree, keeping the uni informed is vital, but my son had actually missed his first deadline by approximately 3 - 4 months, because he wouldnt admit his problems, before I actually became aware.

I think it is quite clear your son was unable to carry on and obvious he'd been suffering a number of months. There had been calls made and he had seen a GP and been recognised as having depression earlier on.

The OP has said nothing to anyone until the results were released and has then only managed to produce a GP note stating what he has told the GP and nothing from the counsellor ( although he doesn't seem to have gone for many sessions).

Now, a couple of months later, he is telling them he is well enough to have another go, but he hasn't really proved he was that ill in the first place, or that he's taken steps to improve his condition.

I'm really not sure they can be compared!

stephyt23

bestpud wrote: »

I think it is quite clear your son was unable to carry on and obvious he'd been suffering a number of months. There had been calls made and he had seen a GP and been recognised as having depression earlier on.

The OP has said nothing to anyone until the results were released and has then only managed to produce a GP note stating what he has told the GP and nothing from the counsellor ( although he doesn't seem to have gone for many sessions).

Now, a couple of months later, he is telling them he is well enough to have another go, but he hasn't really proved he was that ill in the first place, or that he's taken steps to improve his condition.

I'm really not sure they can be compared!

I agree with you. We're not trying to suggest the OP has made this up at all but you can see why the uni think it sounds dodgy.

Out of curiosity what were you studying? You say you'd want to move onto a course in a similar field and start in second year but if you were unwell enough to complete this one why would another course be any different?

thelastunicorn

puresiesta wrote: »

Who are you to comment on what type of depression I have. I have been back to the GP on several occassions to discuss several matters including the medication and to take some phycological tests.

I suffered from insomnia, I could sleep for hours on end, go days without sleep, sleep anywhere and everywhere at any time with no regualer pattern.

My anxiety at Its worst meant that I did not leave my house for 3 weeks.

My depressive state resulted in a severe lack of confidence.

Not all depression is brought on by matters you have stated. Your naivety is unbelievable. If I had progressed into university from college how am I incaable?? If I passed through year one of the course am i incapable?? If my grades are fine the 1st two terms of the year am I incapable??


My spelling and grammer can be totally disregarded on a bloody interent forum you complete stuck up xxxx

1. "Psychological".

2. Insomnia means you can't sleep at all, not that you sleep irregularly.

3. Lots of people lack confidence.

4. I didn't state any causes for depression.

5. I've supported people with depression and severe mental health problems. I've also seen teenagers who are melodramatic. It is usually quite obvious which is which.

6. If your grades are merely "fine" in the easy part of the year, it is not a great leap for you to fail when it gets more challenging.

7. Your immature response and bad language just furthers my negative opinion of you. You wrote a post with an attention-seeking tone - you just wrote "Help" as the title, so that everyone would look at it without knowing what it was really about. You cannot take any criticisms - constructive or otherwise - from anyone on this board, and have an entitlement complex in that you assume you should get special treatment just because you were ill. Guess what? Everyone gets depressed sometimes.

It's not really surprising that you've got into this situation and are refusing to accept any responsibility for any part of it.

dmg24

puresiesta wrote: »

In that sense yes I could report it earlier. But with no evidence from a doctor or councellar. at that point i would be claiming im ill.

You have summed up why your appeal has failed - you could have reported it earlier, you could have seen your GP earlier. It was your choice not to do so.

The_One_Who

puresiesta wrote: »

In that sense yes I could report it earlier. But with no evidence from a doctor or councellar. at that point i would be claiming im ill. It is a very difficault issue to resolve in regards to mental health.

Would I be right or wrong not to tell the uni that I think I have depression because of so and so. OH uni i think i have depression so my exam results will be rubbish. how would they at the point no wheather i was or was not lying to them as a fail safe.

You should have went to see the doctor well before your exams if it was having such an impact on your life. I have depression, I know that going to a doctor and telling them you are struggling isn't a thrilling prospect, but it is what should have been done. You should also have told someone at university that you suspect you are struggling with depression (and other things) and are going to see a doctor about it, but that should also have been done in January.

Look at it from their point of view, how many people do you think try to chance their luck every single year with things like this? I'm willing to bet they get a few every year.

MrsManda

puresiesta wrote: »

In that sense yes I could report it earlier. But with no evidence from a doctor or councellar. at that point i would be claiming im ill. It is a very difficault issue to resolve in regards to mental health.

If you were reporting it earlier, you could've also seen a doctor /counsellor at the same time therefore would have evidence.

puresiesta wrote: »

. OH uni i think i have depression so my exam results will be rubbish. how would they at the point no wheather i was or was not lying to them as a fail safe.

This misses the point a lot of the posters are trying to make. It's much more believable if you tell someone you are struggling and have seen a doctor who thinks you may be suffering from depression prior to your exams (or even just after you've taken them), than waiting to you get your results, feeling depressed and upset about them, going to your doctor to tell them you feel depressed then telling the university that you were depressed all along and that's why you failed.

I don't think there is any way that your university can pass you for the year on the basis of your illness as you need those modules to make up your degree. They may let you resit the year but until you are well they'd be irresponsible letting you risk further ruining your health by telling you you can resit during this academic year. Mental health issues are not solved overnight or over two months of the summer.

puresiesta

The time period you are stating is in fact completeloy wrong it was not 9months it was 6 months. Janruary was when the symptons began but at level I could cope with that did not affect my studies too much. April was when my symptons progressed but I did not seek any help beacuse of reasons stated and listed by the mother of the son who also suffered MH problems (which I am sympethetic for as his case seems very sever as at no point through my ordeal did I have suicidal thoughts, thankfully).

I was in contact with the student councellor's 3 days before the examination results were posted. I was eventually pursuaded by them to see my GP. I booked in for an appointment 2 days after the results were published, but could not bring myself round to confronting the issue. I submitted a Request 4 Reconsideration and then 5 days after the published results saw my GP and was diagnosed etc. I explained the sitaution in regards to my Uni also.

2 and a half weeks later before my R4R was rejected I returned to my GP. This was to check my progress on the medication etc and to also discuss my academic appeal. She at that point persrcibed me with the medication that was working up until the University term started in October this year and wrote a letter in my presence divoulging information in regards to my illness. She also stated that she had been in contact with the students counceller's and that they would arrange means to discussing my health and monitor my progress throughout the next academic year to insure that I did not feel as though I was on my own with the problem and that any issues could be proactively dealt with before they seriously affected my studies again.


When I discussed my Illness with the GP she established that It was not brought on by my results as the time period for this was to short given my mental state and that she had not identified any reasons as to why my state could have gotten any more sever durring the period between sitting the examinations and recieving the results. Concluding that even though I had only just seen a medical proffessional my claims to illness were not of false pretencers in order to cover up my reasons for failing exams.

puresiesta

I don't think there is any way that your university can pass you for the year on the basis of your illness as you need those modules to make up your degree. They may let you resit the year but until you are well they'd be irresponsible letting you risk further ruining your health by telling you you can resit during this academic year. Mental health issues are not solved overnight or over two months of the summer.[/QUOTE]



Exactly I did not wish to pass as I understand that I failed the year. I was appealing for the decison to allow me to re-take the year.