Seven million now live in households where no one works - The DM

Percy1983

Jacks_xxx wrote: »

How can you tell who belongs to this brigade? And how much would you be prepared to make their children suffer in order to punish the parents?

The poor children without PS3s and iPhones... oh the poverty...

ninky_2

Percy1983 wrote: »

Just had a look on gumtree, and found several washing machine for less than £40. So thats 2.5 weeks without fags... oh the poverty...

how does that help the economy though? in fact the fags probably put more back into the pot by way of tax. no one seems to have taken my point / link that wealth concentrated into the hands of the few will not help economic growth. if you have large amounts of disposable income you are more likely to horde large amounts of it. spread that wealth among a few people and they are more likely to spend it.

Percy1983

Jacks_xxx wrote: »

Blimey. :eek: Huge negative assumption about people in receipt of Benefits there.

Yes it is a bit of a tongue in cheek way of looking at it, but if you have £15 to spend as you want every week, a washing machine which takes that money for 2.5 weeks isn't the end of the world.

Jacks_xxx

Percy1983 wrote: »

Yes it is a bit of a tongue in cheek way of looking at it, but if you have £15 to spend as you want every week, a washing machine which takes that money for 2.5 weeks isn't the end of the world.

But the £15 is imaginary. And how are a long term poor family going to fetch it? Leaving aside for the moment how on earth they would be able look on gumtree for it via a computer they don't have and internet they can't afford.

Jacks_xxx

Percy1983 wrote: »

The poor children without PS3s and iPhones... oh the poverty...

I don't know what to say to that. I take child poverty seriously, It really worries and upsets me so I'm not able to be flippant about the suffering of children.

Percy1983

They could well be on the internet if they use some of there money for it and likewise a full interent ready PC can be had for around £50.

By all means I am sure they will have neignbours/friends/family who will help them find a cheap washing machine if needed.

Percy1983

Jacks_xxx wrote: »

I don't know what to say to that. I take child poverty seriously, It really worries and upsets me so I'm not able to be flippant about the suffering of children.

Define these suffering children, what are they suffering with/from because there parents chose not to work?

A._Badger

ninky wrote: »

how does that help the economy though? in fact the fags probably put more back into the pot by way of tax. no one seems to have taken my point / link that wealth concentrated into the hands of the few will not help economic growth. if you have large amounts of disposable income you are more likely to horde large amounts of it. spread that wealth among a few people and they are more likely to spend it.

That's what Labour were attempting to do for 13 wasted years - 'redistribution'. In other words, take from one set of people and give to another. And when they found it didn't work, they nipped down to see the local loan shark and borrowed.

That's how we got in this mess.

Some say the definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

It's not a concept that Labour supporters appear to understand.

ILW

Jacks_xxx wrote: »

I don't know what to say to that. I take child poverty seriously, It really worries and upsets me so I'm not able to be flippant about the suffering of children.

You still have not been able to say what child poverty actually means. How can you tackle a problem if you do not know what it is?

Percy1983

The point we are making is the benefits system doesn't leave children in poverty as parents get enough to feed/shelter them, the parents lead to poverty when they choose to spend said benfits on vodka and fags.

In which case they should have the children taken off them.