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Seven million now live in households where no one works - The DM

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  • Butterfly_Brain
    Butterfly_Brain Posts: 8,862 Forumite
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    edited 11 September 2010 at 12:27AM
    I understand what you are saying but I have tried to find work on the internet as well and I have a diploma in computer applications and still can't get work - This town used to have so much industry but now like many other towns there is no work at all. Most of the shops have closed and it is a ghost town but they are still building ghettos that will house single mothers.

    What about the service personnel who fought and lost limbs fighting for this carp country, are they to be deemed scroungers too!

    And FYI I help out at a local lower school so I am not idle by any means. My DLA pays for my copious amounts of drugs and equipment that I need to lead as normal a life as possible, which is actually what it is meant for.

    You only get heating allowance and car allowance if you have both Higher Mobility and Higher Care allowance so not everyone on DLA gets it.

    If you get car allowance you give up a large percentage of your benefit to get one.
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  • lazer
    lazer Posts: 3,402 Forumite
    Jacks_xxx wrote: »
    Oh not to worry then. So long as British children are not actually starving to death in the streets everything's fine.

    Do please give us the benefit ;) of your experience on benefits and how you well you lived and always had enough of everything.



    Would it astonish you to find out that many people disagree with you? (in parliament, in children's charities, and research organisations.)

    Well, according to this http://www.cpag.org.uk/povertyfacts/ a couple with 2 children need £333 a week excluding housing costs to not be in poverty.

    I am well aware that people disagree with me, but also that people agree with me - I am entitled to my own opinion

    I come from a very working class family, my Dad worked in a factory and my mum looked after us - she went our to work again when I was in Secondary School

    We didn't have things that people consider essential - no central heating, no holidays (exept to ny uncles caravan in Donegal), our clothes were mainly hand me downs from cousins or home made.

    My parents claimed Family Allowance and that was it - we were entitled to Family Credit but my mum didn't claim it as it her decision to say at home and look after us, we alos were entitled to our rent paid, but didn't ask for it as the landlord may have put the rent up then.

    Do i consider that we were poor - yes, do i consider that we were in poverty - No.

    We had a roof over our heads, food on the table and clothes to wear - and our income was below that you get on Benefits.
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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    lazer wrote: »
    Well, according to this http://www.cpag.org.uk/povertyfacts/ a couple with 2 children need £333 a week excluding housing costs to not be in poverty.

    LOL!

    17k a year before tax and before housing costs (which would include council tax).

    What a joke.

    That's probably half the country in poverty then.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    So it now appears that the poverty line is around 30K. I think taht would put more than half the population in poverty. I know I could live pretty well on £300 pw after housing costs.
  • olly300
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    I understand what you are saying but I have tried to find work on the internet as well and I have a diploma in computer applications and still can't get work -
    Not sure you do.

    I was pointing out now lots of jobs in many sectors require you to apply on the internet regardless of how you heard of them.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    olly300 wrote: »
    Not sure you do.

    I was pointing out now lots of jobs in many sectors require you to apply on the internet regardless of how you heard of them.

    And many do not,
    Friend of mines 20 year old needed a job (uni drop out), started at one end of a large south London high street, went into every shop and store asked for the manager in each one, said he was looking for a job, and by the end of the day had 1 full time offer, and three part times as well as numerous application forms to fill in and post to the head office.
    I believe we can all find the reasons "why not" but some just ignore them and get on with something.
  • Friend of mines 20 year old needed a job (uni drop out), started at one end of a large south London high street,

    We don't all live in London.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • olly300 wrote: »
    If you are relying on using hard copies of local or national newspapers to find a job then it's not surprising people are out of work.

    Every single job I have in the past 11 years has been sourced by the internet. Some newpapers advertised jobs in the job section of their website but not in hard copy.

    Plus talking to my nephews', young brothers' and friends about the shop jobs and other low skilled jobs they do or have done, they have always had to apply online. Even if they have asked in the shop or seen an advert some where they are always directed to somewhere on the internet.

    Spot on. Jobseekers are really limiting their options if they rely on papers alone. Newspapers are horridly expensive to advertise in (an a5 advert can cost a thousand easily). Small employers and charities that want to keep costs low will tend to avoid them.
    "fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell)
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    We don't all live in London.

    Any city would be the same, failing that grab a yellow pages and hit the phone. Many employers appreciate those that show some initiative.
  • ILW wrote: »
    Any city would be the same, failing that grab a yellow pages and hit the phone. Many employers appreciate those that show some initiative.

    Ok, well.. erm.. how about.. We don't all live in cities either ?

    And while I'm sure there's, many, many employers out there appreciate initiative completely ! I'm not disputing that..However, I'd be very surprised if there were many handing out full-time jobs on the basis of a polite 'giss a job type' phone call at the moment ?

    Unless of course you have yet another wonderful, inspiring and uplifting ( cloud cuckoo-land ) anecdotal to share with us all ?
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
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