Seven million now live in households where no one works - The DM

ILW

I would suggest that CT, gas, elec, water and home insurance fall under housing costs, a washing MC under clothing, if you cannot afford a lawn mower then get a pair of shears or transfer to a flat without a garden. OK the £15.00 figure was just pulled out of the air, but there could be a figure that is universal after living costst are paid.

Jacks_xxx

lazer wrote: »

Absolute poverty does not exist in the UK

Oh not to worry then. So long as British children are not actually starving to death in the streets everything's fine.

lazer wrote: »

The beneifts provided by the Government are enought to live off

Do please give us the benefit of your experience on benefits and how you well you lived and always had enough of everything.

lazer wrote: »

The government will but a roof over your head and provide with a minimum income per week - which is enough to supprot yourelf and your family

Would it astonish you to find out that many people disagree with you? (in parliament, in children's charities, and research organisations.)

Jacks_xxx

ILW wrote: »

I would suggest that CT, gas, elec, water and home insurance fall under housing costs, a washing MC under clothing, if you cannot afford a lawn mower then get a pair of shears or transfer to a flat without a garden. OK the £15.00 figure was just pulled out of the air, but there could be a figure that is universal after living costst are paid.

Transfer? I think you might be revealing your prejudices and assumptions about people in receipt of benefits there.

What if you can't sell your house because the housing market is is in a slump, and you are in huge negative equity - plus of course you can't cut your grass and there's hand washing everywhere since the lawn mower and washing machine packed up a year ago so that's not helping.

Re the shears maybe you can't afford them either, or you couldn't use them because you are old ill or disabled?

Percy1983

As mentioned before I child without an iphone is in poverty!, but the parents are to blame, if people have children they can't give a good life to it is there fault not the governments.

Likewise I didn't have as much as other kids at school so I was probably classed as living in poverty but I laways had something to eat and a warm place to live with a bed, As for why I didn't have all the things other kids had, yes that was down to my parents, but the both worked and did what they could but I do still have some bad feelings about the effect there heavy smoking has had on my health and in hindsight the fortune spent on fags could have made my life a little better. With that it motivated me to get a good job so I and my children didn't have to be the ones without, it did me no harm and someways I have a better life now due to it.

Percy1983

Jacks_xxx wrote: »

Transfer? I think you might be revealing your prejudices and assumptions about people in receipt of benefits there.

What if you can't sell your house because the housing market is is in a slump, and you are in huge negative equity - plus of course you can't cut your grass and there's hand washing everywhere since the lawn mower and washing machine packed up a year ago so that's not helping.

Re the shears maybe you can't afford them either, or you couldn't use them because you are old ill or disabled?

Get a used washing machine, and lose a good few weeks luxsury money. The same goes for me on a bigger scale, my car breaks down then I don't go out on the town for a month or so.

Why if you work you just have to deal with these problems yet if on benefits you should get it sorted for you?

Jacks_xxx

Percy1983 wrote: »

Get a used washing machine, and lose a good few weeks luxsury money. The same goes for me on a bigger scale, my car breaks down then I don't go out on the town for a month or so.

Why if you work you just have to deal with these problems yet if on benefits you should get it sorted for you?

No, that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that there isn't enough luxury money or going out on the town money for families on benefits to save up in order to pay for the normal things that people need to have.

Googlewhacker

Jacks_xxx wrote: »

No, that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that there isn't enough luxury money or going out on the town money for families on benefits to save up in order to pay for the normal things that people need to have.

Benefits are there to help people in dire needs, not to give people a way of life. The only exception to this are people that are unable to work due to illness/disability and as such their benefits should be able to give them a way of life which is better than the 'bread line'

However the won't work brigade should only have enough to get them by.

If some of the people on benefits had a look at their statement of affairs then I bet they could afford to save up for bigger purchases that are required such as washing machines etc

Percy1983

Just had a look on gumtree, and found several washing machine for less than £40. So thats 2.5 weeks without fags... oh the poverty...

Jacks_xxx

Googlewhacker wrote: »

Benefits are there to help people in dire needs, not to give people a way of life.

Some people are in dire need for months years or decades, dire need can become their way of life.

Googlewhacker wrote: »

The only exception to this are people that are unable to work due to illness/disability and as such their benefits should be able to give them a way of life which is better than the 'bread line'

Because they are the deserving poor? As opposed to the merely unemployed who should be kept on the bread line no matter how long they and their families remain out of work?

Googlewhacker wrote: »

However the won't work brigade should only have enough to get them by.

How can you tell who belongs to this brigade? And how much would you be prepared to make their children suffer in order to punish the parents?

Googlewhacker wrote: »

If some of the people on benefits had a look at their statement of affairs then I bet they could afford to save up for bigger purchases that are required such as washing machines etc

Do you? Based on what?

Jacks_xxx

Percy1983 wrote: »

Just had a look on gumtree, and found several washing machine for less than £40. So thats 2.5 weeks without fags... oh the poverty...

Blimey. :eek: Huge negative assumption about people in receipt of Benefits there.