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Seven million now live in households where no one works - The DM
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I see the DM is manipulating figures to make a "story" again.
I'll just wait now until the DM sympathisers come along soon and say how great a paper it is.0 -
OH and I sometimes do a little experiment. A few of the guys at his work buy papers to read at lunch, then chuck them. OH asks if anyone is chucking them can he have the papers for compost/the rabbits chickens etc-newspaper has many uses. Plus being MSE er's we will have a read as well. Is is quite a laugh to read the DM along side The mirror. The same stories can be presented in 2 completely different ways with figures being twisted to suit the blatantly right wing or left wing agenda.
Sadly not really any truely independant news reporting left.
ali x"Overthinking every little thing
Acknowledge the bell you cant unring"0 -
i think the erosion of workers rights and the killing of the unions has a large part to play in this.
being part of a union gives people a sense of pride and that they can't be walked all over by bosses. if you a treated like !!!! by the world of work you will start to behave like !!!!.
combine that with a benefit escape route and you've got a lethal cocktail.
unless we seriously want to copy countries where people are forced to work in sweatshop conditions because there is no alternative we need to look at improving workers rights in this country.Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron0 -
i think the erosion of workers rights and the killing of the unions has a large part to play in this.
being part of a union gives people a sense of pride and that they can't be walked all over by bosses. if you a treated like !!!! by the world of work you will start to behave like !!!!.
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I really don't think the demise of unions has anything to do with peoples behaviour at all.
The saddest thing for me is when parents take no interest in their kids education. Workers rights (which still for the majority of British people are legally stronger than anytime in history) has nothing to do with this at all.0 -
i think the erosion of workers rights and the killing of the unions has a large part to play in this.
being part of a union gives people a sense of pride and that they can't be walked all over by bosses. if you a treated like !!!! by the world of work you will start to behave like !!!!.
combine that with a benefit escape route and you've got a lethal cocktail.
unless we seriously want to copy countries where people are forced to work in sweatshop conditions because there is no alternative we need to look at improving workers rights in this country.
If you don't like your pay and conditions, resign and get a new job.
Simples.0 -
What erosion of worker's rights? British workers are very strongly protected. I even got a state mandated holiday for having kids as a man!
What else would you have brought in?
large (and increasing) sections of the workforce don't enjoy these rights because they are on temporary contracts or employed via agencies. more jobs are being made part time. many people are dismissed before a year is up so that they have no recourse to an employment tribunal. employers are not even obliged to pay sick pay. most of the people on this section of the forum aren't in these types of jobs so i do realise why they think all is rosy.Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron0 -
Bullfighter wrote: »If you don't like your pay and conditions, resign and get a new job.
Simples.
oh yes and that would go down very well with any future employer. fool.Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron0 -
oh yes and that would go down very well with any future employer. fool.
And being a striking member of a militant union is a better CV highlight?
Why else would you leave a job?
I've left a number of jobs because of changes (or lack thereof) in my pay and conditions, and I've never had an employer question it. They would be more concerned if I left a job "coz I felt like it guv".0 -
As for the family above, my first thought was £23000 isn't all that much, but then you do the sums of everything they don't have to pay and it soon adds up.
£23k after housing and council tax doesn't sound bad to me....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0
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