£70 Parking Fine in non P&D Car Park

Elmer_Dudd

Labman
You asked I think.;)
You got I think.;)

Anyway it's been fun.:D

Must make haste as I left my car on bluelagoons private land and.....well, you get my drift.

Be careful and look out for the Trolls.
Or bring back Dave Brooker!!

Elmer:cool:

digp

Write to your MP s and get this raised in Parliament. A bill should be passed outlawing clamping.

joe1965

Labman wrote: »

...no wheel clamping has yet happened...please delete refs....they are not relevant

Who the hell are you to tell me what I can and cannot post! It is a reply to what Bluelagoon posted.

joe1965

Labman wrote: »

Why?......?

Because once again the English are being shafted while the Scots get it right i.e. student fees, prescriptions, etc. In Scotland, in 1992 wheel-clamping on private land was banned overnight, as it was declared to be extortion and theft. Only the police are allowed to clamp. So what’s the difference between England and Scotland? Nothing! Many clampers are out to fleece the motorists by charging extortionate amounts for clamp release fees. It is a form of theft; they are depriving you of the use of your property. Trespass is only an offence if you do or intend to do damage. How can a parked car be proved to do damage to a car park?

BrandNewDay

I have not read this whole thread... but I think it's pretty hilarious that somebody would respond to unwanted parking on their private land by CLAMPING THE VEHICLE IN PLACE.

joe1965

Labman wrote: »

Taken? (sic) In last 10 days Morrisons, Somerfield, Woolies and various other high street stores have captured my image....tell me why this is harassment & a criminal act & what reasonable force I can use to stop it?

There is a difference between a store capturing your image on a instore CCTV to having someone stand in front of you with a camera.
If you were stood in front of me with a camera and continued to try and take my picture I can if necessary take the camera from you if that is the only way to stop you.

joe1965

BrandNewDay wrote: »

I have not read this whole thread... but I think it's pretty hilarious that somebody would respond to unwanted parking on their private land by CLAMPING THE VEHICLE IN PLACE.

Unfortunately this legalized theft is happening all the time. It makes over £230 million a year for the companies who clamp. Though there are guidelines which are supposed to be followed if they wish to have access to the DVLA database this doesn’t happen.
Security Industry Authority licences are supposed to regulate them but it’s not working and as it has been shown they can’t abide to it then it’s about time Parliament stepped in.

bluelagoon_3

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Can we assume then that you are registered?

You can assume anything you want.

bluelagoon_3

joe1965 wrote: »

Taking a persons picture when they don't wish you to do so can be regarded as harassment which is a criminal act. The person can use reasonable force to stop you.

No they cannot.

joe1965 wrote: »

To quote you from above, "what utter rubbish".
Under the Security Industry Act 2001 wheel-clampers used by private landowners must have a licence from the Security Industry Authority (SIA). It is a condition of holding an SIA licence that a landowner must not clamp a vehicle if it displays a valid disabled badge. To do so is a criminal offence and
is punishable by imprisonment for a term of up to six months, or by payment of a fine not exceeding £5,000, or both.

You seem to be confused (again). We don't clamp, we issue parking charge tickets.

joe1965 wrote: »

So you admit that they are breaking The Administration of Justice Act and that you are fleecing people? And that neither of those points are relevant?

No, we do not break the law.

joe1965 wrote: »

Also is CPS a member of the BPA? If so they are breaking the guidelines laid down in October 2006 which entitles them to gain access to DVLA records.
Firstly, in your post #39 you state the charge is £85 reduced to £60. The charge can only be £75 maximum before any reduction.
Secondly you state in # 98 & #101 you issue tickets. As you are not employed by CPS and even if you were you admit in #101 you don't wear a uniform or so they are not entitled to gain information from DVLA.
I have already talked to them tonight, backing it up with an email, giving links to this thread and to the CPS website. The gentleman informed me that if the information checks out on the CPS web site they will be stopped from using the database and will be investigated.
Is that challenging enough?

Good luck with that.

bluelagoon_3

joe1965 wrote: »

Because once again the English are being shafted while the Scots get it right i.e. student fees, prescriptions, etc. In Scotland, in 1992 wheel-clamping on private land was banned overnight, as it was declared to be extortion and theft. Only the police are allowed to clamp. So what’s the difference between England and Scotland? Nothing! Many clampers are out to fleece the motorists by charging extortionate amounts for clamp release fees. It is a form of theft; they are depriving you of the use of your property. Trespass is only an offence if you do or intend to do damage. How can a parked car be proved to do damage to a car park?

Parking charge tickets are enforced under Contract Law, not trespass. Please do at least try and understand the basics of what you're trying to comment on.