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Combined Parking Solutions is run by a character called Mike Perkins (Perky) and bluelagoon is under his spell right now - buzzing off the adrenalin of being able to extort stupid sums of money by coercion and threats (and issuing "Parking Charge Notices" on windscreens which are specifically designed to emulate official Police/Council notices). Perhaps the feeling of power explains why all the posts are in bold.
Their website shows that bluelagoon's company gets a backhander per ticket issued.Every ticket you issue will earn you a £25 bounty when it is paid.
A "£25 bounty", huh? Nice! Your motives are suddenly becoming clearer... this is about pure money-making, and not about putting the world to rights.
The PDFs that bluelagoon posted links to were part of Mike Perkins' propaganda that he sends out to clients in his sales pack, but as we all sussed out immediately, it was a case of cherry-picked information. He won 3 cases against frightened and scared people with insufficient legal knowledge to put a defence together - perhaps they were elderly or vulnerable in some other way, or too poor to seek out the services of a solicitor.
But how many cases did Perkins lose in court? How many judges had him for breakfast? Hmmm. He's a bit more cagey on that score, as the users of CAG and Pepipoo are all too well aware.bluelagoon wrote: »Secondly, they're not parking 'penalties' they're parking 'charges'. No one can legally issue a parking 'penalty' on private land.
Oh yeah?.....
What's this then.... on the Combined Parking Solutions website....Example of ticket
View an example of our the penalty notice tickets ..Should you wish to cancel any issued parking charge ticket for whatever reason within 14 days, it will be done free of charge. This ensures that only genuine offenders and not customers etc are penalised should a parking charge be issued in error.
I'd get on the phone to Perky tomorrow and get him to correct those Freudian slips if I were you! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
bluelagoon, do you realise that what you are doing is going to backfire on you and Perky spectacularly? In 24 hours time I guarantee that anyone Googling "Combined Parking Solutions" will find this thread - which contains bags of reference material to anyone wishing to take on you and your beloved parasites in court. (Ironically, you were the first person to name them on here, not me). Talk about negative PR - you could give Gerald Ratner a run for his money!
Jerk with MSEers at your peril.
In fact - I'll throw down the gauntlet here and now. You give me the address of your precious car park and I'll come and park on it. Let's see how you fare in court against a proper defence, hey?0 -
Combined Parking Solutions is run by a character called Mike Perkins (Perky) and bluelagoon is under his spell right now - buzzing off the adrenalin of being able to extort stupid sums of money by coercion and threats (and issuing "Parking Charge Notices" on windscreens which are specifically designed to emulate official Police/Council notices). Perhaps the feeling of power explains why all the posts are in bold.
Yes, you've hit the nail on the head there. I'm a power mad parking warden who only posts in bold type! Of course it's nothing to do with the fact it's just easier to read the thread, that would be silly.
Their website shows that bluelagoon's company gets a backhander per ticket issued. The motives are suddenly becoming clearer... this is about pure money-making, and not about putting the world to rights.[/quote]
Actually it's about stopping people parking on our private land but yes, we do get paid for it too.The PDFs that bluelagoon posted links to were part of Mike Perkins' propaganda that he sends out to clients in his sales pack, but as we all sussed out immediately, it was a case of cherry-picked information. He won 3 cases against frightened and scared people with insufficient legal knowledge to put a defence together - perhaps they were elderly or vulnerable in some other way, or too poor to seek out the services of a solicitor.
They were not sent to me as part of any sales pack - I asked CPS for some recent examples but I will be happy ask for more. Only yesterday you were claiming that you'd never even heard of a case making it to Court. Now you have evidence of cases that have been won you're desperately trying to find new ways to maintain your existing and very flawed beliefs.But how many cases did Perkins lose in court? How many judges had him for breakfast? Hmmm. He's a bit more cagey on that score, as the users of CAG and Pepipoo are all too well aware.I'd get on the phone to Perky tomorrow and get him to correct those Freudian slips if I were you! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:bluelagoon, do you realise that what you are doing is going to backfire on you and Perky spectacularly? In 24 hours time I guarantee that anyone Googling "Combined Parking Solutions" will find this thread - which contains bags of reference material to anyone wishing to take on you and your beloved parasites in court. (Ironically, you were the first person to name them on here, not me). Talk about negative PR - you could give Gerald Ratner a run for his money!
On the contrary, I'd imagine that anyone reading this post will realise that CPS do take people to Court and they'll see some examples - and as far as I can see there is nothing here that would enable anyone to avoid paying a properly issued parking charge ticket. CPS gave me permission to post those examples so they are clearly not concerned about being named.Jerk with MSEers at your peril.
In fact - I'll throw down the gauntlet here and now. You give me the address of your precious car park and I'll come and park on it. Let's see how you fare in court against a proper defence, hey?
It's a tempting offer, but I don't give my address to strangers on the internet - certainly when there are people like you on the loose!
By the way, I see you have failed to respond to some of my earlier reponses to you. I guess you just prefer to ignore the awkward questions that don't help your agenda.0 -
Quoted directly from BlueLagoon's own quote on the CAG site, I think this gives a pretty good insight into why BlueLagoon is so desperate to perpetuate the fear which forces people to pay extortionate and unlawful parking penalties....
I own some land, and I use the services of a PPC (and 1 wheelclamping company) to enforce.
I have stated for sometime they are enforcenable and use Perkys company to enforce on 3 areas of land I own, I use another company called As-Securi T to patrol on a couple more.
I am convinced as I can be that they are enforceable and I regularly ask them for updates on tickets/enforcing - In the absence of any evidence to show they are not enforceable I will stick with my beleifs.
Anyway, if they were found to be un-enforceable I would just go back to companies that tow & clamp unauthorised vehicles on my land .. I only use a PPC as the shops on some land areas dont like the hastle of the clampers and towers - personally I couldnt care less if someone was towed/clamped if they are somethere they shouldnt be then tough !!!
It is quite funny actually to see someone who has taken the chance to run to the bank for example, the clampers are sitting in their van .. see the driver run off and within 30seconds the vehicle is clamped - the person comes back 2mins later and is nearly in tears
.. then £100+ later in cash the car is relased and that person NEVER comes back.
My tenants/clients are happy, I am happy with my £30 kick back and the only person who is unhappy is the idiot who took the chance in the first place...
I get £25 back when a ticket is issued on my land with a PPC, £30 when clamped and £40 when towed away ... so Im on a winner regardless.
Make up your own mind as to whether this joker is offering his 'advice' in the interests of the consumer or protecting his and his cohorts' incomes.0 -
Quoted directly from BlueLagoon's own quote on the CAG site, I think this gives a pretty good insight into why BlueLagoon is so desperate to perpetuate the fear which forces people to pay extortionate and unlawful parking penalties....
I own some land, and I use the services of a PPC (and 1 wheelclamping company) to enforce.
I have stated for sometime they are enforcenable and use Perkys company to enforce on 3 areas of land I own, I use another company called As-Securi T to patrol on a couple more.
I am convinced as I can be that they are enforceable and I regularly ask them for updates on tickets/enforcing - In the absence of any evidence to show they are not enforceable I will stick with my beleifs.
Anyway, if they were found to be un-enforceable I would just go back to companies that tow & clamp unauthorised vehicles on my land .. I only use a PPC as the shops on some land areas dont like the hastle of the clampers and towers - personally I couldnt care less if someone was towed/clamped if they are somethere they shouldnt be then tough !!!
It is quite funny actually to see someone who has taken the chance to run to the bank for example, the clampers are sitting in their van .. see the driver run off and within 30seconds the vehicle is clamped - the person comes back 2mins later and is nearly in tears .. then £100+ later in cash the car is relased and that person NEVER comes back.
My tenants/clients are happy, I am happy with my £30 kick back and the only person who is unhappy is the idiot who took the chance in the first place...
I get £25 back when a ticket is issued on my land with a PPC, £30 when clamped and £40 when towed away ... so Im on a winner regardless.
Make up your own mind as to whether this joker is offering his 'advice' in the interests of the consumer or protecting his and his cohorts' incomes.
Nothing to do with me I'm afraid, but they do have a good point. If issuing parking charge tickets didn't work we'd also just get a clamping company in.
The fact is the parking charges do work and they are enforceable in a Court as has been demonstrated.
I can't say I'd ever laugh at someone in tears because they've been clamped or ticketed but I do understand the poster's frustration with people parking on his/her land without authorisation.0 -
bluelagoon wrote: »They were not sent to me as part of any sales pack - I asked CPS for some recent examples but I will be happy ask for more. Only yesterday you were claiming that you'd never even heard of a case making it to Court. Now you have evidence of cases that have been won you're desperately trying to find new ways to maintain your existing and very flawed beliefs.
On the contrary, I'd imagine that anyone reading this post will realise that CPS do take people to Court and they'll see some examples - and as far as I can see there is nothing here that would enable anyone to avoid paying a properly issued parking charge ticket. CPS gave me permission to post those examples so they are clearly not concerned about being named.
You and I both know perfectly well that Perky only turns up to hearings when he thinks the defendant is poorly educated, elderly or vulnerable, and hasn't put a proper defence together.
He bottles it whenever someone clever puts in a robust defence.
That's the secret of how he works. He's a parasite who picks on the weak.bluelagoon wrote: »It's a tempting offer, but I don't give my address to strangers on the internet - certainly when there are people like you on the loose!
Hmmm... people like me on the loose. You mean people who know how to enter a proper defence and then publish the results on the internet when Perky either chickens out of attending the hearing, or gets humiliated by the judge.
I can quite understand why you don't want to take up my challenge.
Anyway, it's a business address, not a home address, isn't it? It hardly compromises your personal safety, since I'm not going to have a clue who you are.bluelagoon wrote: »By the way, I see you have failed to respond to some of my earlier reponses to you. I guess you just prefer to ignore the awkward questions that don't help your agenda.
I've addressed everything, but I'm not going to repeat answers I gave in earlier posts.
If we're going to drag over old posts, on Page 1 of this thread you contended that "If the driver is not the registered keeper then the charge still applies to the registered keeper". Do you stand by this, after everything you've since learned, or are you going to admit to at least getting one thing wrong?0 -
If we're going to drag over old posts, on Page 1 of this thread you contended that "If the driver is not the registered keeper then the charge still applies to the registered keeper". Do you stand by this, after everything you've since learned, or are you going to admit to at least getting one thing wrong?
Yes, that has to be a false statement, which he made in post #38. I'm pretty sure bluelagoon claimed that the charges are enforceable under contract law.
How can a contract be formed between the company and someone who hasn't parked there and hasn't therefore seen the signs and supposedly agreed to the charges?From Post #50: If the signs are there to be seen and a reasonable person would see and understand them – then yes, if you park on the land then the contract exists and its terms and conditions are lawful. It is possible to enter into a contract by your actions, for example, entering a car park. You see the signs and agree to the charges by parking there - this creates a contract by action.
A false statement like that - which appears on some of these charge notices, and - according to bluelagoon - on the signs on his car park - has to be an example of these companies wilfully printing falsehoods to extort money.0 -
I can quite understand why you don't want to take up my challenge.
Anyway, it's a business address, not a home address, isn't it? It hardly compromises your personal safety, since I'm not going to have a clue who you are.
Yes, a business address that is linked to a group of companies registered at Companies House where you can get the home addresses of directors and shareholders.I've addressed everything, but I'm not going to repeat answers I gave in earlier posts.
OK sorry, I must have missed the post where you provided evidence of all the cases that you said had been won by the defendant. :lipsrseal0 -
Cracking thread that makes gripping reading.:eek:
I must admit that the more bluelagoon says the more I get the impression this is all about making money and not anyone breaking minor parking rules.
I think that the fines for breaking these minor rules are far too high and that firms like this should never ever have access to DVLA information full stop.:mad:
Having seen how predatory these parking/clamping firms can be and how lax the regulation of these firms actually is I think the vast majority of people are entirely against this system of parking fines and that there is very little support for these parking firms or the guys who give out these notices-so I think you are on a hiding to nothing looking for much support on here bluelagoon.
Got to dash..left my car in a superstore car park for the last couple of hours and ....only joking!!;)
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Elmer_Dudd wrote: »Cracking thread that makes gripping reading.:eek:
I must admit that the more bluelagoon says the more I get the impression this is all about making money and not anyone breaking minor parking rules.
I think that the fines for breaking these minor rules are far too high and that firms like this should never ever have access to DVLA information full stop.:mad:
Having seen how predatory these parking/clamping firms can be and how lax the regulation of these firms actually is I think the vast majority of people are entirely against this system of parking fines and that there is very little support for these parking firms or the guys who give out these notices-so I think you are on a hiding to nothing looking for much support on here bluelagoon.
Got to dash..left my car in a superstore car park for the last couple of hours and ....only joking!!;)
Elmer:cool:
Not looking for support really, but I think many of the people posting on here actually do more harm than good. There is so much misinformation in these forums that I'm quite sure it gives false hope to some people who eventually end up in Court with a £200 bill.
I'm in no way suggesting that ALL car parking charges are justified as I'm sure there are some ruthless operators out there who issue tickets under questionable circumstances but with regard to the tickets issued on our land I do know that every ticket is enforceable and any people who don't pay end up in Court.
When I provided evidence of successful Court actions the panicked responses from a couple of users screamed "Fake", then "Not defended properly", then "they're old cases" etc etc.
The reality is many people who do not pay a correctly issued parking charge end up in Court with a significantly increased bill and/or a damaged credit record.0 -
bluelagoon wrote: »Not looking for support really, but I think many of the people posting on here actually do more harm than good. There is so much misinformation in these forums that I'm quite sure it gives false hope to some people who eventually end up in Court with a £200 bill.
I'm in no way suggesting that ALL car parking charges are justified as I'm sure there are some ruthless operators out there who issue tickets under questionable circumstances but with regard to the tickets issued on our land I do know that every ticket is enforceable and any people who don't pay end up in Court.
When I provided evidence of successful Court actions the panicked responses from a couple of users screamed "Fake", then "Not defended properly", then "they're old cases" etc etc.
The reality is many people who do not pay a correctly issued parking charge end up in Court with a significantly increased bill and/or a damaged credit record.
go get a life you joker0
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