HD-Ready 1080p with built in Freeview?

Iconic

Amazon have a good deal on a telly at the moment https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2685835

Isn't the description misleading?

I thought Freeview was not 1080p and even Freeview HD is not 1080p. Isn't the only way you can get 1080p by Blue-ray?

I get the impression this HD thing is over hyped and the telly is more important than HD.

withabix

Nothing wrong with the description. Same level of deception as every other 1080P tv with built-in Freeview, is it not, because they all say exactly the same thing.

That TV is only SD Freeview though.

To get HD Freeview, the TV needs a built-in (or add-on) Freeview HD receiver. This one hasn't got one.

Iconic

withabix wrote: »

Nothing wrong with the description.

But it is misleading.

What I am saying is that some SD pictures are just as good as HD pictures....it all depends just how good the television is.

Some people say HD is five times better than SD. I cannot tell the difference on quite a few of the pictures I have seen!

Don't you agree HD is over hyped?

david39

To me there seem to be certain types of programmes that are enhanced by HD, and others where there seems no difference.

I watched "The Deep" and couldn't see any difference, but "Coast" is far better in HD. Surprisingly, "Last of the Summer Wine" seems fantastically better picture quality in HD to standard. I suspect that programmes with a large number of dark scenes do not come out so well.

The best HD programme I have seen for picture quality was last year's Festival of Remembrance, live from the Albert Hall - but sometimes some of the older widescreen films come out well - saw one entitled "Cheyenne Autumn" recently which was quite stunning. It seems that when the original film was made on 70mm stock, later reduced to 35mm for general cinema showing, then it comes over well on HDTV.

penrhyn

Not all programmes on the HD channels are in HD, on the Sky+HD EPG programmes originated in HD are shown in an orange font.

Televisions are sold as HD Ready, ready to accept an HD signal, from blu Ray Freeview HD or Sky HD.

david39

On ITV HD, the HD programmes carry the ITVHD logo in one of the top corners - this is absent if it is in SD format. All content on the BBC HD channel is in HD.

I don't know about Channel4 as I only have Freesat to receive HD and that doesn't carry Channel 4HD currently.

almillar

5 times better comes from comparing the number of pixels on the screen.
OP, there are STACKS of TVs advertised like this.
1080p screen - plug a Blu Ray player in, and you'll get a progressive picture with 1080 lines displayed.
Freeview - has a Freeview tuner (500 something lines)
Freeview HD tuner - has a freeview HD tuner - 1080i broadcast.
OP - I hope you've learnt the difference between HD and HD ready?

aliEnRIK

Not all HD broadcasts are even in HD either. Theyre upscaled SD content (There should be a law against this)

moonrakerz

Iconic wrote: »

Some people say HD is five times better than SD. I cannot tell the difference on quite a few of the pictures I have seen!

Don't you agree HD is over hyped?

No - "proper" HD is very good, but there are too many upscaled or poor quality programmes pushed out as HD.
"Coast" the other night was good - BUT, even on that they had several bits of SD film (something out of the cupboard ?) which were very poor quality.

The biggest cause of "I can't see any difference between SD and HD" is that people sit too far away from an HD picture !

These are the recommended distances:-
http://hdguru.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/hdtv_distance_chart.pdf

Iconic

almillar wrote: »

OP, there are STACKS of TVs advertised like this.

Yes but does that it make it right?

almillar wrote: »

OP - I hope you've learnt the difference between HD and HD ready?

I do know the difference but does the average person buying a tv know it?
I don't think so and HD is just hype to sell more tv's.

Iconic

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Not all HD broadcasts are even in HD either. Theyre upscaled SD content (There should be a law against this)

and how many people know the difference between i and p?