Tent thread

lily_livered

Dear Suzy Butler, Here is a list of must read articles, don't forget to check the "about" sections to see the impeccable qualifications of the authors:

On the Naughty Step – drop the dead donkey redux

More on landlord living in tent case

The dangers of the ‘we all think’ mindset

Landlord responsibilities – what being a landlord really means

Urban Myth – when a landlord lets a property, its still his

Urban Myth – you can only serve a section 21 notice on tenants who are in rent arrears

Urban Myth – when a landlord lets a property, its still his

HTH.

Biffa

Biffa wrote: »

:rotfl:

even though I'm not a member of their little 'group', I've still been able to confirm that I WON'T be attending the petition launch tomorrow.

So far, 1 is maybe attending, and 3 are NOT attending.:T

Wonder if those numbers are going to rise and if anyone is soft enough to confirm that they will be attending??

Well, here's a shocker - the upcoming petition event has now been removed and replaced with a link to the Landlord Action link, which also has a couple of comments on it arguing that the tenant is a tenant until the court says so etc. Maybe too many people couldn't attend and it'll be rescheduled, like the webchat was??

tbs624

They have added LLZ to the favourites - let's hope Ms Butler reads the forum there and learns from her mistake. Most people over there do understand the difference between a T and a Squatter, how the law provides for a Stat Perioidc to arise, and the correct way to deal with a T eviction

Adding "favourite" links to tenancy deposit schemes, LL associations, and LLZ doesn't make Ms Butler's actions towards her former Tenant any more excusable.

Come on Jezza, be a good lad and stick a link up to Tessa's pages, or Nearly Legal's Housing Blog I guess they're not "favourites".....

tbs624

Their latest update:

An end to squatters rights what about homeowners rights? The aim of ' rebalancing the law for landlords and tenants'is to provide better protection for private landlords who rent out their primary residence. Our key objectives are;

1) Speed up the eviction process (once the tenant is two months in arrears the landlord would need to provide proof that this is the case and ...after which time the tenant can be removed with a two week eviction notice. At present the court process can take up to seven months. All documentation would be checked and verified prior to initiation of recovery and eviction process bringing the law more into line with current commercial property law

2) landlords to have better access to their property. This would continue along the lines of the current system requiring written notice but if the tenant refuses to allow admission to have right of access allowed legally with police or baliff support.

The petition will be launched online later today


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(My highlighting)

Here's the attempt at a two tier system within the PRS, to which Tessa Shepperson referred.

Ms Butler wants to have a Ts rent in her pocket whilst retaining a right to pop in and out when it suits her, with a bailiff and a police officer in tow............dear, oh dear.

mynameisdave

Beat me to it.

Objective 1. I was under the impression after you have proved the arrears you get a 14 day judgement. So the change they want is that being final, rather than having to go back and get a bailif order.

Objective 2. NO! ITS NOT YOUR BLOODY HOUSE WHILE SOMEBODY ELSE IS LIVING IN IT.

mynameisdave

How annoying. I can't comment on the actual petition wall unless I verify my account with debit card or mobile. I can still comment on walls though

tbs624

tbs624 wrote: »

Their latest update:

1) Speed up the eviction process (once the tenant is two months in arrears the landlord would need to provide proof that this is the case and ...after which time the tenant can be removed with a two week eviction notice..

Presumably, if at any point in the future Ms Butler fails to pay her own mortgage, she will be happy to move out of the property within 2 weeks.

How would any potential support for her proposals tie in with the situation when a home owner is in arrears with their mortgage?

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/repossession/mortgage_arrears/government_help_for_homeowners

mynameisdave

Is the Landlordzone link there or not. It comes up in one browser (Opera) but not in Firefox?

mynameisdave

tbs624 wrote: »

[/INDENT]Presumably, if at any point in the future Ms Butler fails to pay her own mortgage, she will be happy to move out of the property within 2 weeks.

How would any potential support for her proposals tie in with the situation when a home owner is in arrears with their mortgage?

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/repossession/mortgage_arrears/government_help_for_homeowners

I suppose, just to be annoying/play devils advocate, you could argue the same for point 2. What if the lender just wanted to come in and have a look round

john539

And what is the definition of "primary residence", who decides ?

What about flipping properties to make your primary residence to evict a tenant squatter.

If you are in a position to let your primary residence, I would suggest it cannot be your primary residence.