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surely it is better to limit child benefit to 2 kids per family

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  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    LilacPixie wrote: »
    i have 2 kids with a 3rd on the way. My husband gets child benefit for our kids as at the time of the oldest birth we were planning on him being a SAHD. From what I can remember only one person can claim child benefit, there is not such a think as a joint claim so how could they means test it accuratly unless they re-did the whole system making claim joint?

    Taxation for adults is individual.

    Trying to combine income to means test parents is a nightmare as the child tax credits and student finance show.

    Therefore the only choice is to freeze it, scrap it completely or limit it in some way i.e. to children under 5.
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  • SingleSue
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    mbga9pgf wrote: »
    in the main, Not for the sort of kids that have families that rely on benefits they dont.

    Little bit too much of a generalisation there old chap (Ok, I am assuming you are of the male species here).

    Just because a child comes from a family who receive benefits, does not mean to say that child will become an adult and claim benefits.
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  • muskoka wrote: »
    BUT stop any benefit going to Europe for parents who are in the U.K. and say they have children somewhere in Europe - that we are paying for!!

    Can't do that, sadly, EU law kicks in.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Can't do that, sadly, EU law kicks in.

    Stuff EU law and the lawyers who leech off the system. We need to do what is right for our great country.

    GG
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  • Stuff EU law and the lawyers who leech off the system. We need to do what is right for our great country.

    GG

    Then it needs to be renegotiated with the EU. Can't just happen at Westminster.
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  • GracieP
    GracieP Posts: 1,263 Forumite
    Beneficial to us all how , what about the childless how does it benefit them to pay for the education , health needs , tax credits and child allowance of others children.Its conceited to say no to benefits for others while still condoning them in one form or another by another name.

    Because when we are elderly we need there to be young adults to keep society functioning. I know when I hit 70 I want there to be doctors and nurses to care for me when I'm ill, binmen to collect my rubbish, farmers to grow my food, truck drivers to drive the food to the shops, sales assistants to sell me food.

    Most of the people I will rely on to keep my life nice haven't been born yet. We all need children to keep being born. In many ways the childless will become even more reliant on strangers. If I have children I have some hope they will help take care of me one day if I need it. If you don't have children you will be completely reliant on other people's.
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    edited 18 August 2010 at 11:53PM
    ALIBOBSY wrote: »
    I do claim the child benefit and child tax credits, and this is still much less than OH pays in tax/ni each month so the tax payer effectively "gets" a "profit" from us.

    Healthcare and schooling are just two of the others services your family of 6 will need too. All services have to be paid for; even the ones your family don't use.

    Pre tax credits, one parent would stay at home during the day with the children while the other worked. Then the other parent would work for few evenings or a day at the weekend. Parenting was shared, as was working.
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  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    GracieP wrote: »
    If I have children I have some hope they will help take care of me one day if I need it. If you don't have children you will be completely reliant on other people's.

    I feel it important to say that I didn't have my children with any sort of insurance policy for my old age in mind.

    I don't want them to be tied to taking care of me one day. I want them to be free to go where they choose and where their lives take them. Like many of their peers, their work, relationships, interests, etc. may well take them to other parts of the country/world.

    They must take all the opportunities that life has to offer. It's what I have always wanted for them.
  • treliac
    treliac Posts: 4,524 Forumite
    muskoka wrote: »
    I think capping the child benefit would be a good thing. Maybe a benefit as OP said for up to two children. BUT stop any benefit going to Europe for parents who are in the U.K. and say they have children somewhere in Europe - that we are paying for!! AND any parents should have worked for a certain period for get any child benefit.
    Can't do that, sadly, EU law kicks in.


    Any idea of how this EU law supports British parents, i.e. how many British parents work elsewhere and send benefits from other countries back to their children over here?

    It always feels like it's one-way traffic!
  • I pay loadsa tax, I want some back - child benefit is the only thing I can get!
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