Benefits and having Guests

maxmycardagain

dmg24 wrote: »

The Compliance Officer would decide on the balance of probabilities whether they are a couple for benefit purposes. Proof beyond all doubt relates to criminal prosecutions.

and a prosecution for fraud would be a criminal charge?

maxmycardagain

theres no shortage of folk with too much time on thier hands ready to tittle tattle or cause mischief

and some arent on MSE either

dmg24

maxmycardagain wrote: »

and a prosecution for fraud would be a criminal charge?

There is no question of a prosecution in this case, and in terms of an internal compliance investigation, the civil definition would still apply.

maxmycardagain

dmg24 wrote: »

There is no question of a prosecution in this case, and in terms of an internal compliance investigation, the civil definition would still apply.

they will ultimately have to take a statement under caution if they suspect fraud though?

dmg24

BigFatMan wrote: »

Ofcourse your not living together.

The dwp can and will makeup whatever garbage they want to try scamming and panicking people into missing out on/giving back money that they are entitled to. But the law is totally on your side.
You can sleep over at his house every night if you want to yet unless you regard that as your primary home then you've done nothing illegal.
If the dwp say anything to you instead of trying to do all the work for them tell them to either provide some actual evidence that you are 'living together' not just dating as a normal couple, and they will soon stop trying to scam you.

The DWP have not said that they are living together. Read the OP!

dmg24

maxmycardagain wrote: »

they will ultimately have to take a statement under caution if they suspect fraud though?

If the DWP suspect fraud (and nowhere has it been stated that they do), the same burden of proof with regards their status as a couple will apply. The criminal burden will apply to proving fraud i.e. that they intended to deceive/ deprive.

maxmycardagain

Ive always told all or any authority who sniffed "nick me or leave me" - its never failed yet

dmg24

maxmycardagain wrote: »

Ive always told all or any authority who sniffed "nick me or leave me" - its never failed yet

That will not work with the DWP. A genuine claimant has absolutely no reason not to comply with a compliance investigation. Those who comply find that things are sorted much more simply than those who try to be difficult.

maxmycardagain

oh i always COMPLY, no problem, but "they" (so far "they" include HMRC, VAT, DWP and few others) think they can bully folk into agreeing to anything, but I wont and dont cave in as they would like.

dmg24

maxmycardagain wrote: »

oh i always COMPLY, no problem, but "they" (so far "they" include HMRC, VAT, DWP and few others) think they can bully folk into agreeing to anything, but I wont and dont cave in as they would like.

You do whatever you think best, but we want the OP to resolve the problem as calmly and efficiently as possible, not to make a nuisance of themselves.