EPA letter from council re. cigarette end

ih8stress

Help. My son has today got a letter from the local council quoting the EPA 1990 Section 33 & 87 - depositing waste/littering on the highway.

They are requesting information to further their investigations, in order to offer a Fixed Penalty Fine of £75, rather than place the matter before the Magistrates' Court.

It mentions the date, time, road, and car registration details but not how this information was gotten.

There is a form titled 'Questions Under Caution in Respect Of Litter From A Vehicle' to be filled in.

I told my son I would try and glean some info from this helpful forum before he fills anything in.

Thanks:)

sassy_one

ih8stress wrote: »

Help. My son has today got a letter from the local council quoting the EPA 1990 Section 33 & 87 - depositing waste/littering on the highway.

They are requesting information to further their investigations, in order to offer a Fixed Penalty Fine of £75, rather than place the matter before the Magistrates' Court.

It mentions the date, time, road, and car registration details but not how this information was gotten.

There is a form titled 'Questions Under Caution in Respect Of Litter From A Vehicle' to be filled in.

I told my son I would try and glean some info from this helpful forum before he fills anything in.

Thanks:)

I think you need to firstly contact them and request the evidence that they may or may not have.
There is every chance that someone has reported your son, to the council for such an offence and they have taken this claim to be 'true'.

After you have got the evidence, you then may wish to seek and appoint a Solicitor, as unless they have some good evidence, they do not have a case that will stand.

masterlumps

did he do it?

sassy_one

masterlumps wrote: »

did he do it?

Around by me it is advertised everywhere, dropping a cigarette end, the fine is £100 on the spot.
I don't smoke so does not apply to me, however I always see people throw them on the floor, and no one comes running to issue them a fine!

rev_henry

I would imagine your son needs to tread really carefully in what he says to the council now, in order to avoid incriminating himself further. Can't really advise anything more specific sorry!

sarahg1969

OP, it may be useful to repost this on www.pepipoo.com. It's a motoring site, but there have been other similar cases recently.

Do not contact the council at all at this stage. As far as I know, you have no obligation to provide them with any information.

http://www.pepipoo.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t50374.html

http://forums.pepipoo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t53341.html

http://forums.pepipoo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t29692.html

Coveredinbees!!!!

If he did it it will teaching him not to chuck his junk out the car window.

masterlumps

sassy-one wrote: »

Around by me it is advertised everywhere, dropping a cigarette end, the fine is £100 on the spot.
I don't smoke so does not apply to me, however I always see people throw them on the floor, and no one comes running to issue them a fine!

that doesnt make it ok though

skiddlydiddly

masterlumps wrote: »

that doesnt make it ok though

Nor does it answer the other persons question, seeing as how the question wasn't even aimed at sassy.Still, another one on the post count hey ho.

steveo3002

not that littering is right , but cant they put their powers to better use

id put up with litter if we could get rid of yobs and druggies , unisured drivers etc etc

good luck

Mr_Oink

Simple answer, and there is *no* nice way to say this: Pay up. If you've failed to teach your kid some manners with his litter, let him learn via his pocket! It's still a better deal than a £5k fine or 5 years in prison for Arson because that fag end started a heath fire or similar.

From what you say he can spin the wheel and go to the mags court if he likes, but this has the risk a permanent black mark coming up in a CRB check for the rest of his life if he loses.

People bleat on about anti-social behaviour and littering on the one hand, then on the other whine when the laws in place to deal with it are exercised saying 'shouldn't you be catching rapists and murders blah blah blah'.

The best advice anyone can give (assuming he did it) is this: Just pay it, whine, and move on - oh, and don't do it again. End of.