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raskazz

dunstonh wrote: »

I have no problem being corrected when wrong and would acknowledge it accordingly, as I have done in the past (I believe I did with one of Quentins posts the other day). I dont mind a bit of leg pulling either. However, the response from adouglasmho was rude, aggressive and uncalled for. That said, it doesnt bother me in the slightest. I have been around too long to let people with poor atttitudes like adouglasmho worry me.

You're not wrong anyway.

See the Road Traffic Act 1988, Section 99(4) and Section 99(5):

"(4) Where the name or address of the licence holder as specified in a licence ceases to be correct, its holder must forthwith surrender the licence to the Secretary of State and provide him with particulars of the alterations falling to be made in the name or address and, in the case of a provisional licence as respects which the prescribed conditions are satisfied, with a statement of his sex and date of birth.
(5) A person who fails to comply with the duty under subsection (4) above is guilty of an offence."

I think you will find that this: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/ukpga_19880052_en_8#pt3-pb4-l1g99 is a slightly more authoritative source on the matter than Wikipedia.

adouglasmhor, I'm afraid that you have made yourself look quite the fool in this thread.

adouglasmhor

dunstonh wrote: »

I have no problem being corrected when wrong and would acknowledge it accordingly, as I have done in the past (I believe I did with one of Quentins posts the other day). I dont mind a bit of leg pulling either. However, the response from adouglasmho was rude, aggressive and uncalled for. That said, it doesnt bother me in the slightest. I have been around too long to let people with poor atttitudes like adouglasmho worry me.

Of course not go on telling people they are breaking non existent laws without doing a little research first. promoting your opinion as fact. don't let me stop you.

I would rather be rude than a bully having a go at someone when they are down. Like I say do people let you away with your behaviour often?

adouglasmhor

raskazz wrote: »

You're not wrong anyway.

See the Road Traffic Act 1988, Section 99(4) and Section 99(5):

"(4) Where the name or address of the licence holder as specified in a licence ceases to be correct,It hasn't you fool, Her name was still correct. you really need to learn adult reading skills. its holder must forthwith surrender the licence to the Secretary of State and provide him with particulars of the alterations falling to be made in the name or address and, in the case of a provisional licence as respects which the prescribed conditions are satisfied, with a statement of his sex and date of birth.
(5) A person who fails to comply with the duty under subsection (4) above is guilty of an offence."

I think you will find that this: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/ukpga_19880052_en_8#pt3-pb4-l1g99 is a slightly more authoritative source on the matter than Wikipedia.

adouglasmhor, I'm afraid that you have made yourself look quite the fool in this thread.

But the point of wiki and CAB quotes I used was to point out that the name is not wrong, there is no obligation to change your name on marriage. So you are wrong and fail at reading skills.

Here's a Government link which show I am right and you are not. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/changeofname.htm

raskazz

You are an incredibly ignorant, rude and arrogant little barrack-room lawyer if I may say so, and/or a troll given that your post history seems to indicate that most of your waking hours are spent on here posting inanities.

adouglasmhor wrote: »

there is no obligation to change your name on marriage. So you are wrong and fail at reading skills.

There is no obligation to change your name at marriage (i.e. take your partner's name) no, but that's not the point of this discussion at all. If you do change your name on getting married (i.e. the marriage certificate records a name different to that on your driving licence), which the OP has clearly done as she refers to her maiden name, then the relevant authorities have to be informed. If what you are saying is correct - which it isn't - then the Government would not have bothered inserting those Sections in the Road Traffic Act as they would be unenforceable, wouldn't they?

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Here's a Government link which show I am right and you are not. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/changeofname.htm

No mention of driving licences or the DVLA on that page, so why you would think that (or Wikipedia!!? haha) would hold sway over primary legislation I'm not sure. All I can see on that page which is even remotely relevant is where it says:

"Under English law it is legal to change your name without drawing up any formal record, so it is very likely you will not find a deed poll."

And that indicates that you are wrong, as all it confirms is that you can change your name without having to draw up a formal record of the change of name; but if you do change your name, then, as per Section 99 of the Road Traffic Act, the DVLA must be notified.

Please explain your interpretation of Section 99(4) and (5) of the Road Traffic Act if you disagree with mine. Here's the legislation again for those who missed it, or who "fail at reading skills":

"(4) Where the name or address of the licence holder as specified in a licence ceases to be correct, its holder must forthwith surrender the licence to the Secretary of State and provide him with particulars of the alterations falling to be made in the name or address and, in the case of a provisional licence as respects which the prescribed conditions are satisfied, with a statement of his sex and date of birth.

(5) A person who fails to comply with the duty under subsection (4) above is guilty of an offence."

There is a wealth of other pages which confirm that you are wrong:

http://www.nofreetime.com/after_the_big_day/changing_your_name/changing_your_name_with_the_DVLA.aspx

"The DVLA need to be notified of your change of name for your driving licence as well as any vehicle registration certificates (V5C) in your name. The DVLA can issue a fine of up to £1,000 if you fail to notify them of any changes."

http://www.debretts.com/weddings/honeymoon-and-beyond/after-the-honeymoon/married-name-checklist.aspx

"The DVLA requires the bride to send original identity documents showing proof of her change of name, her photo card and its paper counterpart. The bride can drive while her licence is with the DVLA."

Quentin

raskazz wrote: »

If you do change your name on getting married (i.e. the marriage certificate records a name different to that on your driving licence), which the OP has clearly done as she refers to her maiden name, then the relevant authorities have to be informed.

No.

When you get married, the marriage certificate does NOT show any change to either parties name.

If you want to change your name on your driving licence, you can only do this if you send in your marriage certificate to prove you are married, and confirm the husband's surname.

You don't have to change it, just because you got married.

dunstonh

You don't have to change it, just because you got married.

No-one has said you do. It was quite clear in a few posts on this thread that its if you choose to use the husbands name. adouglasmhor's comments were in relation to something that no-one has posted. Ironic really considering he posted. "So you are wrong and fail at reading skills.".

Quentin

dunstonh wrote: »

No-one has said you do.(change your name on getting married)

The post of mine you quoted was in reply to this:

raskazz wrote:

If you do change your name on getting married (i.e. the marriage certificate records a name different to that on your driving licence), which the OP has clearly done as she refers to her maiden name, then the relevant authorities have to be informed.

Which does wrongly suggest that when you get married your marriage certificate shows you as changing your name. It doesn't, which was the point of my post.

dunstonh

raskazz does say "if you do change your name". Not that you have to change your name.

Quentin

dunstonh wrote: »

raskazz does say "if you do change your name". Not that you have to change your name.

Raskazz didn't just say that, though:

raskazz wrote:

If you do change your name on getting married (i.e. the marriage certificate records a name different to that on your driving licence), which the OP has clearly done.....

But it's not true. You can change or not change when you get married. Irrespective, your marriage certificate doesn't show any changes, thus cannot show any different name to the maiden name on your licence! Which was what I posted about.

(You and raskazz operating a double act now to "defend" each other?)

DrScotsman

Quentin wrote: »

Raskazz didn't just say that, though:

Okay, then remove that "(i.e. ...)" bracket from his sentence. The rest is completely true as per the act he quoted:

If you do change your name on getting married, which the OP has clearly done as she refers to her maiden name, then the relevant authorities have to be informed.

Or broken up:

1. Name changed ==> Tell DVLA (from Road Traffic Act)
2. OP's name changed (from her posts)
3. OP should have told DVLA (==> elim: 1, 2)

You've possibly (I don't know) found a tiny problem with what Raskazz said, but it does not change his overall point, and is pretty off topic to be honest.