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Hula Groove Wedding Band - Threatened court action!
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Equaliser123 wrote: »Just looked at the terms and conditions of the band we had at our wedding. Guess what? Same terms.
Including the cancellation fee?Love the animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harrass them, don't deprive them of their happiness.0 -
somethingcorporate wrote: »
Doing something just because a lot of other people do it does not make something right (or legal).
Just on this point (from Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977, Schedule 2 dealing with the "reasonableness test") - emphasis added:
(c) whether the customer knew or ought reasonably to have known of the existence and the extent of the term (having regard, among other things, to any custom of the trade and any previous course of dealing between the parties)0 -
Equaliser123 wrote: »Just on this point (from Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977, Schedule 2 dealing with the "reasonableness test") - emphasis added:
(c) whether the customer knew or ought reasonably to have known of the existence and the extent of the term (having regard, among other things, to any custom of the trade and any previous course of dealing between the parties)
I'd suggest that chasing "fines" for parking "violations" is a custom of the trade when it comes to PPC but evidently you do not.
I understand your point and tbh I don't have the understanding as to whether a set of T&Cs from this particular body would constitute a "custom of the trade". Just because it supports a (large?) number of artists I would suggest this would not neccesarily make it valid for the entire trade.Thinking critically since 1996....0 -
blue_monkey wrote: »I am pretty sure it is Hula Groove Review or Hula Band Review that you need to search for.
I did not really look at the www.hulagroove.co.uk website because I was looking for a Hula Groove Review about the band Hula Groove. Or maybe I was looking for the hula groove party band review. Maybe they are a sould band, not really that sure but pretty sure that if you check google you'll find a review on Hula Groove somewhere.
How we doing?? :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
aah,but is there anyone else who can/can't confirm it?
I can.If you don't leap, you'll never know what it is to fly :heartpuls0 -
somethingcorporate wrote: »Just because it supports a (large?) number of artists I would suggest this would not neccesarily make it valid for the entire trade.
No it wouldn't make it valid - a Court decides that. However, it goes to the issue of reasonableness.0 -
Equaliser123 wrote: »Just on this point (from Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977, Schedule 2 dealing with the "reasonableness test") - emphasis added:
(c) whether the customer knew or ought reasonably to have known of the existence and the extent of the term (having regard, among other things, to any custom of the trade and any previous course of dealing between the parties)
If it was the owner of a venue making the booking, then maybe that point would be applied, as the owner might be reasonably expected to be familiar, however when taking bookings from consumers I would suspect that the section would not be permitted to have any great degree of force, in fact it might even work against this band in that they are trying to use venue terms for consumers..
Like trying to use a B2B contract with joe public - a big no-no.
I did also notice some degree of sypathy for them as they are "a band"
Would a plumber, builder or spark get the same treatment?
They may even be "quite good" - does good work allow for unfair terms? A spark, plumber or builder who does a good job but also uses unfair terms cannot use good work for some as an excuse0 -
If it was the owner of a venue making the booking, then maybe that point would be applied, as the owner might be reasonably expected to be familiar, however when taking bookings from consumers I would suspect that the section would not be permitted to have any great degree of force, in fact it might even work against this band in that they are trying to use venue terms for consumers..
Like trying to use a B2B contract with joe public - a big no-no.
I did also notice some degree of sypathy for them as they are "a band"
Would a plumber, builder or spark get the same treatment?
They may even be "quite good" - does good work allow for unfair terms? A spark, plumber or builder who does a good job but also uses unfair terms cannot use good work for some as an excuse
Sorry, I don't follow.0 -
Hi Equaliser123,
Check your PMs.....
Cheers)
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Not sure what our next step should be. Solicitors are naturally wanting high fees.
Perhaps we should just wait.
Don't bother involving a solicitor unless it really comes down to it.
Perhaps go and see CAB (if you haven't already done so).
What exactly did you put in writing to them?
I would perhaps write back saying that as you merely made an enquiry about the availability of the band, and certainly didn't make a confirmation, nor pay a deposit to confirm a booking (as per their own terms and conditions), then no monies are owed.
Make sure you print off ALL their T&Cs so they can't change them, and don't lose their vile bullying letters!!
I really can't believe that Hula Groove would use such dirty bullying tactics. Obviously not very bright... I hope that anyone thinking of booking them reads this firsts and chooses someone else. My bro plays in a band and would never treat potential customers like this!!Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')
No, I am not perfect, but yes I do judge people on their use of basic English language. If you didn't know the above, then learn it! (If English is your second language, then you are forgiven!)0 -
In all fairness to the band, they do state that the terms are designed to stop people taking the mickey and that the terms are negotiable prior to booking.
I have to agree with Equaliser that it is not really fair to abuse the SEO to discredit a company based on one customers situation. By all means the OP may post reviews wherever they see fit.
The point of this board is to give consumer rights to individuals. It is not the purpose to be judge, jury and executioner to companies that you have had no prior involvement with. To start a vendetta against this company would be nothing more than ignorance which i was quite shocked to see from regular posters on this board.
Interesting points pf views being thrown about here peeps.
There is a fine line as to what is considered "reasonable". Perhaps they should have their T&Cs printed so they can hand them out to prospective clients for them to peruse over and make an informed decision as to whether or not they can/ want to commit to them.
I don't think people would want to knowingly/ deliberately take the mickey out of these event organisers as it is obvious that time, effort and cost implications are at stake.
As for the responses you refer to on this forum, please do bear in mind we are all human and that these are merely expressions of opinion. How people interpret it is ultimately down to them, and they can draw their own conclusions.
:A:mad: Hindsight is a wonderful thing...
:j One of Mike's Mob! yea!!!
Finally settled full balance of RBS personal loan ahead of schedule on 10th August 2010 :money:
DEBT FREE AT LAST... BUT FOR HOW LONG?! :eek:0
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