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BrummyGit

Sorry I forgot the pitch question.

HomeSun want 30-40 degrees, but it's a complex calculation that includes how many panels will fit, pitch, orientation, shading and location.

I found the table on this page useful

zeupater

BrummyGit wrote: »

I've also got an ISIS contract filed somewhere - I wasn't about to sign anything before meeting someone in person. That just smacked of totally unprofessional business practices.

If my roof needs repair in an area occupied by the panels (which in my case I don't expect any serious problems in that time) I have to pay for the reasonable costs of panel removal and replacement, plus the cost of any non-reusable parts.

In addition if the system is out of service for more than 3 weeks at a time (max 6 weeks in any 12 month period) I have to pay the FITs to HomeSun for the duration of the removal LESS 2 weeks. The maximum compensation I might have to pay is limited to 4 weeks in any 12 months period.

I don't think that is too unreasonable.

Hi

Have Homesun given any information regarding what would be considered reasonable ...... I take it that the costs would involve scaffolding & lift gear, I also assume that any compensation would be based on the amount of time that you specifically prevented them from gaining access to your property, not the total lead time for them to remove & refit .... also, I take it that the calculation for the potential lost FiT has been provided and agreed at contract stage .... do you have agreed anticipated monthly generation tables to refer back to in case the need arises ??, would you assume responsibility for the insurance of the panels whilst being removed & stored ?? .... what is Homesun's guarantee on limiting the maximum level of financial exposure you have if this was necessary ...... what happens if the root cause of the roof repair is actually as a result of the panels being fitted, who decides, and what does the arbitration clause & process consist of ?? .....

I dont know the answers ..... but I am extremely interested to know what they would be, especially before making any kind of contractual commitment myself .... can anyone provide any answers ?? ..... Krish ???

Z

free_juice?

BrummyGit wrote: »

I found the table on this page useful

According to that my roof is perfect. Spot on south, no shading, 30 degrees, 10 sq. metres bigger than their minimum requirement and in one of the southern coastal counties, yet I was rejected outright. A lucky escape in my opinion except that I last saw my deposit three months ago.

HomeSun_company_representative

Cardew wrote: »

Krish,

You seem to visit this thread a lot.

Would you care to comment if the level of savings zeupater and myself suggest would be a reasonable in Cradbent's case?

Surely you must have some idea of potential savings, and would challenge us if we were incorrect.

Potential savings on a 'rent a roof' system were discussed with A Shade Greener(ASG) in the thread in the Green forum.

They fit a larger system(3.3kWp) with a minimum generated output of 2,800kWh pa and they do not demur from the suggestion a £100 pa saving is reasonable. They of course do not charge anything for their system where you charge £500 and £5 monthly.

Other neutral publications estimate in the region of £100pa saving if you don't pay for the system or a monthly fee.

IMO it is probable that some people will save absolutely nothing from having your Solarshare system fitted.

Any comment?

Hi Cardew,

Savings is important to us as it would be with yourself. Overall, we want everyone to benefit and have already had a handful of enthusiastic customers monitoring their meters since installation as well as the weather to calculate savings on a daily and seasonal basis.

I have contacted a Mr Alan Cotton on the Isle of Wight who received his solar install from us at the end of October. He has no objection with sharing his recordings on the MSE site.

We have installed a 3.52 system (16 panels) and In the second week he tracked £4.35 savings on electricity whilst 5 out 7 days were partial or full sun. Approximate savings in Autumn: £4.35 x 52 = £226.20 He is certainly happy with his savings thus far and can see even more in future months.

http://www.homesun.com/featured-homes/free_solar_customer_mr_cotton_from_isle_of_wight

Hope this helps.

Krish

zeupater

HomeSun_company_representative wrote: »

Hi Cardew,

Savings is important to us as it would be with yourself. Overall, we want everyone to benefit and have already had a handful of enthusiastic customers monitoring their meters since installation as well as the weather to calculate savings on a daily and seasonal basis.

I have contacted a Mr Alan Cotton on the Isle of Wight who received his solar install from us at the end of October. He has no objection with sharing his recordings on the MSE site.

We have installed a 3.52 system (16 panels) and In the second week he tracked £4.35 savings on electricity whilst 5 out 7 days were partial or full sun. Approximate savings in Autumn: £4.35 x 52 = £226.20 He is certainly happy with his savings thus far and can see even more in future months.

http://www.homesun.com/featured-homes/free_solar_customer_mr_cotton_from_isle_of_wight

Hope this helps.

Krish

Krish

Approximately 4500kWh/year (based on one week in Autumn) off a 3.52kWp system at 50% usage/ 50% export .... and also assuming a very constant insolation level throughout the year ..... thats really saying something .... 1278kWh/kWp .... please, really .........

I take it that an export meter was fitted to this particular installation, so if your claims are based on one particularly good week, please tell, what have they been since, do you know ?? ......

I suppose that the case study property could have a meter which spins backwards, or should the word 'spin' be considered in a more political context and therefore be more appropriate ......

Not convinced .....
Z

Cardew

HomeSun_company_representative wrote: »

Hi Cardew,

Savings is important to us as it would be with yourself. Overall, we want everyone to benefit and have already had a handful of enthusiastic customers monitoring their meters since installation as well as the weather to calculate savings on a daily and seasonal basis.

I have contacted a Mr Alan Cotton on the Isle of Wight who received his solar install from us at the end of October. He has no objection with sharing his recordings on the MSE site.

We have installed a 3.52 system (16 panels) and In the second week he tracked £4.35 savings on electricity whilst 5 out 7 days were partial or full sun. Approximate savings in Autumn: £4.35 x 52 = £226.20 He is certainly happy with his savings thus far and can see even more in future months.

http://www.homesun.com/featured-homes/free_solar_customer_mr_cotton_from_isle_of_wight

Hope this helps.

Krish

You are surely not serious with that response???????

How does he check his £4.35 savings?

What is that in kWh?

What percentage of generated output does he use in house.

Do you think it realistic to take one week(5 sunny days) and multiply it by 52?

Is the IofW representative?

I did ask for savings with a 2.4kWp or 2.6kWp system - the one you charge £500 and £5 monthly for.

What about your other featured house where the lady saved £52 over the highest producing months in the year - February to August - and your brochure states that is 'even better than expected'? Had she been paying £5 a month, she would have saved £22 in the 6months and almost certainly lose money over the next 6 months.

Please don't insult our intelligence!

HomeSun_company_representative

Cardew wrote: »

You are surely not serious with that response???????

How does he check his £4.35 savings?

What is that in kWh?

What percentage of generated output does he use in house.

Do you think it realistic to take one week(5 sunny days) and multiply it by 52?

Is the IofW representative?

I did ask for savings with a 2.4kWp or 2.6kWp system - the one you charge £500 and £5 monthly for.

What about your other featured house where the lady saved £52 over the highest producing months in the year - February to August - and your brochure states that is 'even better than expected'? Had she been paying £5 a month, she would have saved £22 in the 6months and almost certainly lose money over the next 6 months.

Please don't insult our intelligence!

Hi Cardew,

Would you like to speak to a client who has already has a 2.4 system installed by us? You may ask them all the questions you like regarding the readings of thier meter.

I can also arrange for you to speak to Mr Cotton should you wish.

Please let me know and I will arrange it.

Krish

HomeSun_company_representative

zeupater wrote: »

Krish

Approximately 4500kWh/year (based on one week in Autumn) off a 3.52kWp system at 50% usage/ 50% export .... and also assuming a very constant insolation level throughout the year ..... thats really saying something .... 1278kWh/kWp .... please, really .........

I take it that an export meter was fitted to this particular installation, so if your claims are based on one particularly good week, please tell, what have they been since, do you know ?? ......

I suppose that the case study property could have a meter which spins backwards, or should the word 'spin' be considered in a more political context and therefore be more appropriate ......

Not convinced .....
Z

Hi zeupater,

I can also arrange for you to speak to Mr Cotton should you wish.

Please let me know and I can arrange it.

Krish

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we live in a purpose built eco home which we own. We are in the south east and all the PV panels face south and there is no shading at all. We have a system designed to give an output of 2.3 kw and the maximum that I have seen being produced is 1.9 kw. Since the 12 th july to now, we have produced 838 kwh

I hope this helps reality to sink in

edit: just to say that, if we were buying, then no way would we even contemplate looking at any property with a rented roof. An awful lot of people have been shooting themselves in the foot with these schemes.

Cardew

HomeSun_company_representative wrote: »

Hi Cardew,

Would you like to speak to a client who has already has a 2.4 system installed by us? You may ask them all the questions you like regarding the readings of thier meter.

I can also arrange for you to speak to Mr Cotton should you wish.

Please let me know and I will arrange it.

Krish

As you claim the FITs, you will know exactly what the system has generated - can you please publish.

Anyway I would be delighted to accept your offer, please PM me both their phone numbers please.