TV licence query

davidlizard

Recommend the OP:

a) Researches the requirements for needing a television licence - contrary to popular belief you do not require a licence for possessing or using a television, only for receiving TV as it is broadcast. If for example you have not watched television during the unlicenced period, then you have not broken any law. And the onus is on TVL/BBC to prove this, not for you to prove you haven't.

b) Researches the powers that TVL/BBC possess, and what ones obligations are to them. moonrakerz pretty much sums it up - you are under no obligation to tell them anything.

Recommend others:

Use this as further evidence of why under no circumstances do you engage in any form of conversation or other communication with TVL/BBC even if you genuinely do not require a television licence - they exist solely to sell television licences and will undertake any approach possible to sell one - including using well rehearsed tactics to trick people into self-incriminating themselves. The easiest approach is to ignore them and tell them to go away if they come knocking.

asbokid

davidlizard wrote: »

The easiest approach is to ignore them and tell them to go away if they come knocking.

We keep a copy of Watchtower magazine by the front door.

It's handy for breaking the ice when the TV licensing men visit.

brewerdave

asbokid wrote: »

We keep a copy of Watchtower magazine by the front door.

It's handy for breaking the ice when the TV licensing men visit.

HE HEEE:rotfl::rotfl:

adindas

When I was a student I kept ignoring them but they kept sending me the letter to me anyway. I did reply because I did not have TV.

I remember they send massage like this ...
"You keep ignoring us, fine £XXX"....

This people are using mass psychology and make you do which suppose to be their job. Remember that it is them not you need to prove that you are watching TV without license. For this they need to work and find the evidence ...

I keep ignoring them never contact them either. Any letter I received from TV licensing agency went directly to the bin ...

dustinjames wrote: »

i decided to ingnore the letters, they started sending red ones (oohh scary!_lol)
i got fed up, tried to enter on website that i dont have a TV, website wasnt working.
Letter said i may have to go court! sod that.
so i called the line, told them i dont have TV. Think he said they may still visit.
This is why i couldnt be bothered telling them, whats the point if they will still visit.

im also getting bailif letters addressed to previous tenant. Saying they will recover goods to get money back!
i called them, told them that person doesnt live here anymore, they tell me to prove it on their website by scanning
my details and tenancy contract and emailing them! i did not do it, im sick of doing things for other companies for their own benefit.
they said they can not break in and recover goods and they can not come in forcefully even when im there.

dustinjames

i called them up and told them i dont have a tv.

i have loads of VHS tapes that i would like to watch, from what i last read,
this would be ok and a tv licence would not be needed, if just watching videos.
thats the only reason i would get a tv in the future.

RuthnJasper

Not read the earlier posts. I don't have a TV (can't afford a licence), but have an all-in-one DVD & Video player. The only instance where you would need a licence is if you were watching ANY BBC channel, as it was being broadcast. E.G. If you watched the 10.00pm news AT 10.00pm, you'd need a TV Licence. If you watched that day's 10.00pm news at 11.45pm, you would NOT need a licence.

Answer to OP's original question: No.

Don't know if this relates to whatever's gone before - but this is the truth of the matter. 'Nuff said. x

dustinjames

"If you watched that day's 10.00pm news at 11.45pm, you would NOT need a licence."

didnt know that!

Swan_2

dustinjames wrote: »

i called them up and told them i dont have a tv.

i have loads of VHS tapes that i would like to watch, from what i last read,
this would be ok and a tv licence would not be needed, if just watching videos.
thats the only reason i would get a tv in the future.

you'll be ok, you don't need a licence to watch the tapes ... or DVDs, or gaming

RuthnJasper wrote: »

Not read the earlier posts. I don't have a TV (can't afford a licence), but have an all-in-one DVD & Video player. The only instance where you would need a licence is if you were watching ANY BBC channel, as it was being broadcast. E.G. If you watched the 10.00pm news AT 10.00pm, you'd need a TV Licence. If you watched that day's 10.00pm news at 11.45pm, you would NOT need a licence.

Answer to OP's original question: No.

Don't know if this relates to whatever's gone before - but this is the truth of the matter. 'Nuff said. x

you need a licence to watch or record programmes on any channel as they're being broadcast, not just BBC

tod123

This is the bit that annoys me

3.1 NLC – a residential address is categorised as No Licence Needed Claim (NLC) when TV Licensing receives an oral or written (including email) declaration that television receiving equipment at the address is not being used to receive television programme services.
3.2 NLCC – a residential address is categorised as No Licence Needed Claim Confirmed (NLCC) following a visit where the visiting officer has verified that television receiving equipment at the address is not used to receive television programme services.

What it boils down to is

3.1 People who have told us they dont watch TV, but, we do not believe them
3.2 People who have allowed our goons into their private residence to go through their home checking

If you don't let the goons in, then you will receive countless threats of legal action by law & and people turning up at your house on the assumption you are watching TV.

Its an awful system , I have considered cancelling mine, but I have no intention of letting a member of the public into my house to check it, and I cant be doing with goons turning up at my door, soooo annoying

moonrakerz

tod123 wrote: »

but I have no intention of letting a member of the public into my house to check it, and I cant be doing with goons turning up at my door, soooo annoying

If you write to TVL and tell them that you are withdrawing their "Implied Right of Access" to your property, their employees are not allowed to set foot on your property without a Warrant. Ask them to acknowledge your letter in writing.