Morrisons refusing to sell 12 cert dvd?

Zandoni

arenaman wrote: »

I wonder in this case whether the child was handling the DVD or help choose it which would have made the cashier's mind up.

I don't think this matters, at the end of the day a reponsible adult was making the purchase.

peachyprice

Zazen999 wrote: »

The daughter isn't buying it - the adult is.

Don't tell me, you'd also refuse to sell someone some Wine Based Pasta Sauce if they didn't have ID on them too?

[And it's too, not to. 'I would refuse you too'; too meaning 'as well'. 'I would refuse you to' needs another word or more on the end to make sense...]

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Ahh, chickentonightgate. How i miss that thread.

Zandoni

arenaman wrote: »

I think it matters a lot, if it was simply a case of a child being with an adult at the time of purchase of an age restricted product and being refused then that's a bit daft, however if a child is looking at, choosing, handling the product then it gives the cashier suspicion and the grounds to refuse the sale.

I still feel that the parent was buying it and they have no rights to refuse the sale, we will have to agree to disagree I suppose.

adouglasmhor

Chimpofdoom wrote: »

Hmm, well I was reading this thread with interest.. so here's my 2 pence worth..

I have to agree and disagree with what the Sales assistant did. Ok fair enough we live in 2010, British squeamishness is probably a thing of the past and so's common sense.

However, as having once worked as a sales assistant for one of our big supermarkets (back in my teen years) I can sympathise why he did it. It's a bit of the nanny state being enforced and looking after his own back at the same time.

Hypothetically speaking, IF you had been trading standards and say you were testing the store, the responsibility would be on the sales assistant, he would get the fine and very likely lose his job. In this current climate, getting another job wouldn't be so easy.

Remember the sales advisor isn't telepathic, he doesn't know your real intentions, he/she is another human being trying to make it by and earn a living.

Also there's a lot of fuss on here about a DVD, that could have been bought cheaper online :rotfl:

Except there would be no fine as no offence would have been commited.
Not worth 2p - do you want a yellow sticker gun to mark it down?

adouglasmhor

Zandoni wrote: »

I still feel that the parent was buying it and they have no rights to refuse the sale, we will have to agree to disagree I suppose.

They have a right to refuse any sale of any item for any reason. It was a reason that only existed in imagination though.

Chimpofdoom

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Except there would be no fine as no offence would have been commited.
Not worth 2p - do you want a yellow sticker gun to mark it down?

That's all fair and well, but how does the sale assistant know this?!
How can he possibly take the customers word for it.

Numerous times when I did work in a shop, we would get French teachers buying several miniatures of whisky for their french students, they would insist it was theirs, but did we dare take the chance?

No.. because it's not worth getting this:
Allowing the sale of alcohol to a child or young person

(1) Any responsible person who knowingly allows alcohol to be sold to a child or a young person on any relevant premises commits an offence.
(2) A person guilty of an offence under subsection (1) is liable on summary conviction to—
(a) a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale,
(b) imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months, or
(c) both.


For the UK on DVD sales, the possible outcome is this...


The maximum fine for selling or renting an age restricted cassette/DVD to a child under the specified age is £5000 and/or up to 6 months imprisonment.



I can see why the sales assistant did what he did, I didn't condone his apparent lack of comment sense!

Zazen999

Chimpofdoom wrote: »

The maximum fine for selling or renting an age restricted cassette/DVD to a child under the specified age is £5000 and/or up to 6 months imprisonment.



I can see why the sales assistant did what he did

See, I can't. As no child was actually buying an age restricted DVD.

Chimpofdoom

Zazen999 wrote: »

See, I can't. As no child was actually buying an age restricted DVD.

Yes, but it's still an offence to provide a dvd of a certain restriction to someone who's below that restriction.

linky here

Yes, it's lunacy, you can see worse things walking along your street. Does it excuse the sales assistants actions? No, but then you can hardly blame him for what he did, given the potential ramifications for what could have happened.. not what did, what could of happened.

Zazen999

Chimpofdoom wrote: »

Yes, but it's still an offence to provide a dvd of a certain restriction to someone who's below that restriction.

linky here

Yes, it's lunacy, you can see worse things walking along your street. Does it excuse the sales assistants actions? No, but then you can hardly blame him for what he did, given the potential ramifications for what could have happened.. not what did, what could of happened.

But the adult wasn't supplying - they were buying it for their nephew; not that it is anyone's business what an adult does with a 12 cert DVD.

Taking this to it's logical conclusion, any adult with a child present will be unable to complete any transaction with anything that needs an age ID.

It's a world of difference between buying it and BEING under the age, and buying it and having a child with you when you make a purchase.

We allow people to have children with no restrictions but don't allow them to purchase a DVD...unforkingbelieveable.

adouglasmhor

Chimpofdoom wrote: »

Yes, but it's still an offence to [STRIKE]provide [/STRIKE] sell or rent a dvd of a certain restriction to someone who's below that restriction.

linky here

Yes, it's lunacy, you can see worse things walking along your street. Does it excuse the sales assistants actions? No, but then you can hardly blame him for what he did, given the potential ramifications for what could have happened.. not what did, what could of happened.

Fixed it for you and the assistant was not doing this they were selling a DVD to an adult.