Morrisons refusing to sell 12 cert dvd?

Optimist

Equaliser123 wrote: »

Not really. I think it shows a total lack of understanding of licensing law - and common sense - on the part of the cashier and management.

They thought they had a reason but it was a stupid one. If it is a corporate policy, then they should publicise it.

The OP asked if they could refuse to serve her. The answer is yes they can.

Not actually sure what licensing law has to do with it. It was a DVD and thus comes under the Video Recording Act 2010. Amusingly the previous acts were illegal themselves as nobody bothered to tell our masters in Europe that there were such acts.

I agree that it was silly but I don't know the reasons why they are super sensitive, maybe they have been convicted and fined previously for selling DVD to under-age kids thus are extra cautious but it is still irrelevant to the question asked.

sayedrahul

Equaliser123 wrote: »

So where does the policy start and end?

I bought a pack of beer today in Tesco. My 6 month old daughter was there. Would you refuse me?

It's called having some common sense, it is obvious that you are not going to give the beer to your child (unless you happen to be suffering serious delusions) the cashier is not stupid they know what item is being purchased for whom, that's not to say they get it right all the time, and in this case the cashier was spot on.

Zazen999

pcombo wrote: »

I would refuse you to. As your daughter isn't old enough to have it. That is the reason for dvd ratings. And the cashier knows your gonna buy then give it straight to your daughter.

The daughter isn't buying it - the adult is.

Don't tell me, you'd also refuse to sell someone some Wine Based Pasta Sauce if they didn't have ID on them too?

[And it's too, not to. 'I would refuse you too'; too meaning 'as well'. 'I would refuse you to' needs another word or more on the end to make sense...]

sayedrahul

Zazen999 wrote: »

The daughter isn't buying it - the adult is.

Don't tell me, you'd also refuse to sell someone some Wine Based Pasta Sauce if they didn't have ID on them too?

[And it's too, not to. 'I would refuse you too'; too meaning 'as well'. 'I would refuse you to' needs another word or more on the end to make sense...]

Yes the adult is buying for another, it could very well have been the young girl, this is not very hard to understand if you want to purchase booze and fags do not take a teenager with you or be prepared to be refused, as Optimist has said they can refuse to serve you anything without any reason, it is up to the cashier and their discretion, they have no legal obligation to serve you.

Also on the Wine Based Pasta Sauce, the key thing here is that there is hardly if any alcohol in the actual sauce itself, it will not lead to intoxication your logic has no basis as if we were to implement an age restriction on any product with alcohol in them than most medicines/sauces and even wine gums would need people being ID'ed you are taking one extreme to another.

bubblegum26

I think I would have gone mad if this had of been me. I would complain to Morrisons Head Office, unless your daughter was holding the DVD she has no right in assuming the DVD is for her, Tesco went through a spate of this refusing to sell beer to peeps that had teenagers with them and they were left apologising as you have to have reasonable grounds for refusal, a member of staff where I work was given a written warning for refusing cigs to a lady because she had a teenager with her

CapJ

I agree with those that say it is Morrison's right to sell to whoever they please.

However I hate this sort of mentality so I for one am marginally less likely to shop there now.

If it happened to me I would be very unlikely to shop there again.

Morrison's can choose who they serve. I can choose who I shop with.

unholyangel

sayedrahul wrote: »

It's called having some common sense, it is obvious that you are not going to give the beer to your child (unless you happen to be suffering serious delusions) the cashier is not stupid they know what item is being purchased for whom, that's not to say they get it right all the time (oooooh you mean they were just guessing and that it wasnt fact? :rotfl:), and in this case the cashier was spot on.

Really? Do they only hire psychics in supermarkets then?
They may suspect but they do not know.

And oh btw the way: The 12 rating is only found on videos and DVDs. No one younger than 12 may rent or buy a 12 rated video or DVD. Exactly the same rules are used to classify films at 12A as used to classify videos and DVDs at 12.
Suitable for 12 years and over. No-one younger than 12 may see a ‘12A’ film in a cinema unless accompanied by an adult. No-one younger than 12 may rent or buy a ‘12’ rated video or DVD. Responsibility for allowing under 12s to view lies with the accompanying or supervising adult.



Found here: http://www.cbbfc.co.uk/guidelines12-12a.asp


So as you can see, it is perfectly legal for adults to buy 12 dvd's for the intended viewing of under 12 year olds.

Equaliser123

Optimist wrote: »

The OP asked if they could refuse to serve her. The answer is yes they can.

Not actually sure what licensing law has to do with it. It was a DVD and thus comes under the Video Recording Act 2010. Amusingly the previous acts were illegal themselves as nobody bothered to tell our masters in Europe that there were such acts.

I agree that it was silly but I don't know the reasons why they are super sensitive, maybe they have been convicted and fined previously for selling DVD to under-age kids thus are extra cautious but it is still irrelevant to the question asked.

Using "licensing" in the loosest sense.

I stand by my comment - sledgehammer to crack a nut.

Enfieldian

Since when are till monkeys paid to make decisions anyway?

They are employed to scan items and accept payment.

Esqui

Trading Standards are increasing test visits as it's the summer holiday. And with a fine of £500 to the cashier, I think it's worth refusing the sale.