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The destruction of the Middle Classes commences
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It's not true...If that is all true, it does sound like the Indians are a lot brighter than we are and so probably deserve to get all the work.
The Indian contractors I had to price for were over £400 a day.
Those who think we get these resources in for pennies are mistaken.
The bit about loading the price via change requests, and over-egging estimates of how long a piece of work will take are true though; it seems business habits employed by UK software firms have caught on elsewhere
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neverdespairgirl wrote: »today I did a legal aid asylum hearing, now 8 years on, and got £300. Reverse gravy!
£300 a day for 8 years on just one case is not a bad screw NDG
good for you"The problem with quotes on the internet is that you never know whether they are genuine or not" -
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neverdespairgirl wrote: »You are right. But in many cases a degree with make you worth quite a lot more to your employer. Not necessarily, of course, but frequently.
I would suggest that this probably depends on the degree and the grade.0 -
It's not true...
The Indian contractors I had to price for were over £400 a day.
Those who think we get these resources in for pennies are mistaken.
The bit about loading the price via change requests, and over-egging estimates of how long a piece of work will take are true though; it seems business habits employed by UK software firms have caught on elsewhere
So they are more clever, the got the contact and then cleaned up.0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »I'm not quite sure of the gravy train of which you speak, certainly as far as barristers are concerned.
When I was a pupil during immigration work, so not even yet fully qualified, I got £350 for an asylum appeal hearing on legal aid.
today I did a legal aid asylum hearing, now 8 years on, and got £300. Reverse gravy!
Stop doing the 'social' stuff and do more commercial and litigation work, then the big-bucks will roll in.
Anyway, money isn't the be all and end all. I could make £2k a week as a contractor, maybe even more, but I hate the idea of being used like a slave and then thrown out like a piece of dirt.0 -
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No, it's not....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0
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Stop doing the 'social' stuff and do more commercial and litigation work, then the big-bucks will roll in.
Anyway, money isn't the be all and end all. I could make £2k a week as a contractor, maybe even more, but I hate the idea of being used like a slave and then thrown out like a piece of dirt.
I do a lot of litigation, but no commercial. I couldn't care less about one PLC suing another....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
IT got screwed in the apres 2000 recession.
A freelance secretary today earns £50 an hour.
Top end freelance IT support earns £15-£25 (if that now & if you can get a job) in 2000 that would have been £50-£100
As forOne of the professions - law - is already outsourcing. Many of the city firms outsource basic legal activities (due diligence. bulk documentation drafting) to legal specialists in India, and my old firm had a 500 person shared services facility in the Philippines where all the document transcription, IT support, research and creative design services were handled.
It was an excellent facility.
One trick you are all missing is the import of staff from non EU countries to the UK when you can't fill a job. There's a major loophole which allows the filling of UK jobs for up to 2 years by this group which saves the company a massive amount not just on wages but are also tax free.
It's been happening for a long time in IT and off shoring (Far East & India where English speaking is common) gave most companies a nice little pool to pick n chose from.
When your job is on the immigration skills wanted list & you start seeing highly skilled jobs advertised for minimum wage it's basically to take advantage of this.
There's been a lot of talk/spin about how companies need 'foreign diversity' in the media recently to stop immigration rules being tightened. That's complete guff as most if not all big city companies have used the recession excuse to shed staff to gear up for this.0
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