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woodbine wrote: »

hasnt anybody else actually found time to email there mp about this ???

Ive sent an email to Chris Heaton-Harris MP‏ & will let you know the reply asap.
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krisskross wrote: »

The first time i completed an AA form on behalf of my husband I missed out loads of his care needs simply because it was things he hadn't been able to manage for many years so it was normal for me to do them for him.

Withthe best will in the world krisskross, by your own argument, shouldn't your husband have filed in the forms himself with no help?

I undestand why you did it for him of course, but just using it as an illustration that some people DO need help filling them in, even intelligent people.

My son's girlfriend needs help because she is unable to explain herself clearly. Like the poster above she is on the Autistic Spectrum (Asperger's Syndrome) and has difficulty understanding the 'open' type of question on the form, nor is she able to explain her needs clearly to another person. it is a symptom of her condition. Therefore my son, husband and myself helped her to word the answers more appropriately. We did not lie ot exaggerate, but her answer of 'I need someone to help me understand' tells no-one anything. We helped her to expand on her answer detailing the sort of things she has problems understanding, what effect this has upon her everyday life and what help she needs to enable her to understand.

People do need help sometimes, so I think it a bit unfair to say that everyone should fill in the forms with no help.

krisskross

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Withthe best will in the world krisskross, by your own argument, shouldn't your husband have filed in the forms himself with no help?

I undestand why you did it for him of course, but just using it as an illustration that some people DO need help filling them in, even intelligent people.

My son's girlfriend needs help because she is unable to explain herself clearly. Like the poster above she is on the Autistic Spectrum (Asperger's Syndrome) and has difficulty understanding the 'open' type of question on the form, nor is she able to explain her needs clearly to another person. it is a symptom of her condition. Therefore my son, husband and myself helped her to word the answers more appropriately. We did not lie ot exaggerate, but her answer of 'I need someone to help me understand' tells no-one anything. We helped her to expand on her answer detailing the sort of things she has problems understanding, what effect this has upon her everyday life and what help she needs to enable her to understand.

People do need help sometimes, so I think it a bit unfair to say that everyone should fill in the forms with no help.

He has real difficulty with his hands and wrists secondary to the RA. Writing is a real problem and is almost illegible. He also has cataracts (one has now been fixed) which left him functionally blind. He had a small stroke during his bypass which left him with short term memory loss.

Filling in the AA forms would have been impossible for him.

I believe I said that I didn't think outside agencies like CAB or DIAL should be doing the forms, it is obvious that many people and children, BECAUSE of their care needs, will be unable to complete the forms. Therefore the obvious person to complete them will be the person giving the care. That certainly won't be someone in the CAB.

Indie_Kid

krisskross wrote: »

He has real difficulty with his hands and wrists secondary to the RA. Writing is a real problem and is almost illegible.

It is possible to download forms which you fill in on your computer. I do this - I tend to write something and then realise it doesn't make sense. You can also fill them in online.

ECAUSE of their care needs, will be unable to complete the forms. Therefore the obvious person to complete them will be the person giving the care.

This isn't always possible. A friend of mine 9when I lived in London) would sometimes help me out. However, there was no way he would be able to fill in the forms for me. he doesn't know all my care needs. Yes, he knows about all the problems my depression has caused and that I'm partially sighted. However, he doesn't know the full extent of my sight problems.

Vicky123

I don't know what the answer is, as a parent of 2 disabled children I am aware that there could be problems for the genuine but I would be lying if I didn't say I know others who are absolutely playing the system with exagerrated care needs, but you know it will be just typical that the professional scroungers sail through these medicals and the genuine people fall through the cracks:(

seven-day-weekend

krisskross wrote: »

He has real difficulty with his hands and wrists secondary to the RA. Writing is a real problem and is almost illegible. He also has cataracts (one has now been fixed) which left him functionally blind. He had a small stroke during his bypass which left him with short term memory loss.

Filling in the AA forms would have been impossible for him.

I believe I said that I didn't think outside agencies like CAB or DIAL should be doing the forms, it is obvious that many people and children, BECAUSE of their care needs, will be unable to complete the forms. Therefore the obvious person to complete them will be the person giving the care. That certainly won't be someone in the CAB.

Oh yes, i agree with that. I understand completely why he needs help. I was just pointing out that some peopleDO need help, that's all.

I agree that the forms are not difficult and that most people should be able to answer the question themselves, even if someone has to write it down for them. There are a few conditions where the person does not understand the forms so they will need help with them for that reason.

Indie_Kid

Why shouldn't people get help filling the forms in?

Oldernotwiser

sh1305 wrote: »

Why shouldn't people get help filling the forms in?

Because many organisations take the applicant's word for their situation and then present it in the way that is most advantageous for them, regardless of the truth of the situation.

Indie_Kid

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Because many organisations take the applicant's word for their situation and then present it in the way that is most advantageous for them, regardless of the truth of the situation.

But people would still do that if they filled the form in themselves.