Dysons, are they break more than Miele?

hels234

OK, I have a lab cross which sheds like no-ones business and 11 horses who also like to drop a hair or two. I've had 2 dysons and now have a meile. Have owned the meile for 3 years and can catagorically say it was worth the money and is better than the dyson by miles (I've tried both upright and pull along) my mum also swapped from dyson to meile and agrees it's a better machine (they are farmers) am now on the big save for a meile washing mashine. Have had an indicit which I bought for 150 quid over 10 years ago and although it's still going me thinks I'm on borrowed time!:rotfl:

andrew-b

CKdesigner wrote: »

LOL! You see you need to have experience of the Miele dust bag before you make a statement like this. Miele haven't used paper for their bags for as long as I can remember, it is a fabric filter system that has I think 7 layers, that seals itself as it is removed from the cleaner.

Most appliance manufacturers copy others. Miele are one of the very few that innovate! We all have choices on what we purchase and thankfully there are plenty of consumers out there that want the best and not just something that will do, because its for these consumers that want the best that makes companies like Miele push the boundaries and in the end make life better for us all!

Ok sure so my comment was a bit exaggerated and i bow to your greater knowledge

Can't dispute them being an innovator - either miele or indeed dyson. But the thing with innovation is that it does come with a cost. That's the same with whatever product you buy. Sure Miele need people to buy their products so they can continue to innovate..but should that be all mser's?

Im sure miele make brilliant products..i've yet to see someone here post otherwise (so yes im eating words in that respect!!) but what i have issue with is affordability for the masses..i.e economies of scale. Long term they may well be the best products to buy which is probably why you recommend/sell (?) them yourself?

But if i've got £50 in my bank account have no vacuum cleaner and need one urgently, should i buy even a £100 one which is twice what i can realistically afford or should i notch up £50 of debt instead which could possibly put me deeper into debt than i were already? You see my point?

In my mind there are two main types of what i would call real mser's (moneysavers in the true sense of the word) those with money but after top quality product that are still value for money and those without money who are skimping and saving trying to get something of acceptable quality for what they can really afford. I realise that's a bit of a generalistic view and not every MSEr fits that generalistic view, but i don't think miele quite fits the latter "MSEr without money" category that many fall into (myself included!).

redlady_1

I have Miele. The OH has a Dyson. Dysons seem very cumbersome and noisy, my little Miele is fantastic and doesnt scare the cat to death!

theonlywayisup

andrew-b wrote: »

But if i've got £50 in my bank account have no vacuum cleaner and need one urgently, should i buy even a £100 one which is twice what i can realistically afford or should i notch up £50 of debt instead which could possibly put me deeper into debt than i were already? You see my point?

I am quite sure no one on here would advocate getting into any debt for a vacuum cleaner.

However, the balanced other-side of your argument may be,

if you buy a Miele, you will NOT have to replace it for some considerable time. With a £50 cleaner, you may or may not have problems in 1,2,3... years ..... would you want to have to pay £50 for another one after this time if yours fails?

Becles

I've had a Miele cat and dog vacuum for years now. It picks up long hair from two collies and two females really well, and it's never broken down. It's been an excellent buy and I'm really pleased with it.

I use the normal attachment on hard floors and have a turbo brush for carpets. That really gets the muck out of them! Also got a free set of mini tools for the car when I bought it, which are really handy.

shirlgirl2004

Of course the other side to the argument is environmental. We can't keep disposing of our electricals every few years. Where possible we should all opt to buy longer lasting brands. I gave up on my old washing machine after it kept breaking down. I used cloth nappies on my LO at the time so it was costing a fortune at the launderette. I bought a Miele with a 10 year parts and labour guarantee and haven't looked back.

On the vacuum cleaner front I hated my Dyson and then bought a Henry. My Henry doesn't do too much though as I have an IRobot Roomba. I have to confess it is incredibly unreliable but I am incredibly lazy so I put up with it.

ali-t

andrew-b wrote: »

But if i've got £50 in my bank account have no vacuum cleaner and need one urgently, should i buy even a £100 one which is twice what i can realistically afford or should i notch up £50 of debt instead which could possibly put me deeper into debt than i were already? You see my point?
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If you only had £50 in your account and were a true MSE you would go to the pound shop and buy a broom and rubber sweeping brush/shovel leaving yourself £48 in your account

CKdesigner

andrew-b wrote: »

Ok sure so my comment was a bit exaggerated and i bow to your greater knowledge

Can't dispute them being an innovator - either miele or indeed dyson. But the thing with innovation is that it does come with a cost. That's the same with whatever product you buy. Sure Miele need people to buy their products so they can continue to innovate..but should that be all mser's?

Im sure miele make brilliant products..i've yet to see someone here post otherwise (so yes im eating words in that respect!!) but what i have issue with is affordability for the masses..i.e economies of scale. Long term they may well be the best products to buy which is probably why you recommend/sell (?) them yourself?

But if i've got £50 in my bank account have no vacuum cleaner and need one urgently, should i buy even a £100 one which is twice what i can realistically afford or should i notch up £50 of debt instead which could possibly put me deeper into debt than i were already? You see my point?

In my mind there are two main types of what i would call real mser's (moneysavers in the true sense of the word) those with money but after top quality product that are still value for money and those without money who are skimping and saving trying to get something of acceptable quality for what they can really afford. I realise that's a bit of a generalistic view and not every MSEr fits that generalistic view, but i don't think miele quite fits the latter "MSEr without money" category that many fall into (myself included!).

Hi Andrew-b

I understand exactly what you are saying, if you really have only £50 to spend on a vacuum cleaner then what do you do?

The problem is that for the last 10 - 20 years 9 out of 10 appliance manufacturers have been doing all that they can to make their products as cheap as possible, which you might think is good for the consumer but really its not helping anyone, not least of all the planet! Don't get me wrong, I am no eco warrior but I am really concerned about this prolific attitude that you should 'buy cheap and throw it away when it goes wrong' philosophy.

Back to vacuum cleaners! - All that manufacturers can do to make them as cheap as they can is to reduce the quality of the components and materials used, so where do you draw the line as to 'too cheap' a component? Ultimately I think £50 on a new vacuum cleaner is too cheap and just false ecomomy.

clairestokoe

I swear my Dysons they pick up pet hair, look great and tend to last a long time.