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Anyone with half a brain could see that effectively having their car out of service has the potential to cause a greater problem for someone with a disability compared to an abled bodied person - I am amazed that anyone would need the reasons explaining to them.
Any brain dead idiot can see that if a car is clamped they need to arrange for it to be unclamped or for alternative transport. This would involve using a mobile phone and waiting. Is it more difficult for a disabled person to do this than an able bodied person? If it is then maybe they shouldn't be out on their own!Furthermore, I cannot see where anyone is saying that disabled people should be immune to all rules and regulations when it comes to driving, neither is anyone saying disabled folk should not be clamped.
The post made by 'easy' clearly states that he/she would have found it unacceptable if they had been clamped.0 -
Any brain dead idiot can see that if a car is clamped they need to arrange for it to be unclamped or for alternative transport. This would involve using a mobile phone and waiting. Is it more difficult for a disabled person to do this than an able bodied person? If it is then maybe they shouldn't be out on their own!
The post made by 'easy' clearly states that he/she would have found it unacceptable if they had been clamped.
Of course it is possible that this could be more difficult for a disabled person.
Your lack of understanding/compassion is astounding.0 -
Of course it is possible that this could be more difficult for a disabled person.
Your lack of understanding/compassion is astounding.
If the disabled person hasn't the ability to operate a telephone to arrange it to be unclamped or for someone to pick them up, then I have no confidence in the fact that they have a license allowing them to drive on public roads.0 -
But if you park in the correct place and stick to the rules stated in the Blue badge rules this will not happen. We have a BB for my wife once I parked inappropriately on a road and got a ticket. No one is to blame but myself. Did we say we have a BB so shouldn't have to pay. No we took responsibility for our actions paid it and learnt from our mistake. Thats what adults do.Anyone with half a brain could see that effectively having their car out of service has the potential to cause a greater problem for someone with a disability compared to an abled bodied person - I am amazed that anyone would need the reasons explaining to them.
You need to actually read what easy said in there postsFurthermore, I cannot see where anyone is saying that disabled people should be immune to all rules and regulations when it comes to driving, neither is anyone saying disabled folk should not be clamped.Easy wrote:I have to say that if anyone clamped my car whilst it was displaying my blue badge, I'd be on to the local press like a shot.
A few months ago I had to visit my local hospital. I turned up ages before my appt time, as I know parking can be difficult, but the car park was full, inc all the disabled spaces. I waited as long as I could to see if a space became free, but eventually had to park on a hatched area between a pathway and a grass verge.
When I returned, my car had a parking ticket (which I ignored and was never followed up), but if my car had been clamped I would have rung my local paper, the bigger Nottingham evening paper, and the local BBC news desk to get the matter covered.
Inciderntally, I did make sure I wasn't obstructing any fire exits or major access routes when I parked.
The implications are that BB holders should not be clamped if you cant see that from that post there's no hope for you.0 -
atomicsheep wrote: »I guess it all depends whether you were blocking something else. You said you parked between a walkway and a verge. Did this stop people getting past perhaps?
Read the last line of my post. I did make sure I wasn't blocking any access routes or fire exits.Attitudes like this make it difficult for the blue badge holders who understand and follow the rules and realise as much as the BB is there to help them with their needs it does not give them rights over anyone else or put them above the rules or the law
Hopefully your local paper and BBC would have realised what a selfish and unreasonable person you were and that you were putting BB holders in a bad light so would ignore you and your selfish ways.
So, the fact that I turned up at the hospital more than 30 minutes before my appt time, searched the whole car park several times for any sort of space at all, and then took the only remaining option of leaving my car in a non-obstructing gap in the car park makes me unreasonable and selfish. It would have been more reasonable of me to just go home without attending my appt then?Any brain dead idiot can see that if a car is clamped they need to arrange for it to be unclamped or for alternative transport. This would involve using a mobile phone and waiting. Is it more difficult for a disabled person to do this than an able bodied person? If it is then maybe they shouldn't be out on their own!
The post made by 'easy' clearly states that he/she would have found it unacceptable if they had been clamped.
And how am I supposed to wait? I have standing and walking dificulties. I also have commitments, such as a child who needed collecting from school. An able-bodied person would have been able to walk down to the bus stop outside the hospital gate and used public transport. I can't. And on that day, my DH had gone on a business trip 200 miles away, so would have been unable to help.
If someone has a disablility, of course they shouldn'd just dump a car in everyone else's way. Yes, they can be fined, they can be censured. But clamping the vehicle to disable them further is cruel (and counter-productive, as is simply means that the vehicle stays where it isn't wanted for longer, while the clamp is removed)I try not to get too stressed out on the forum. I won't argue, i'll just leave a thread if you don't like what I say.
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But if you park in the correct place and stick to the rules stated in the Blue badge rules this will not happen. We have a BB for my wife once I parked inappropriately on a road and got a ticket. No one is to blame but myself. Did we say we have a BB so shouldn't have to pay. No we took responsibility for our actions paid it and learnt from our mistake. Thats what adults do.
You need to actually read what easy said in there posts
The implications are that BB holders should not be clamped if you cant see that from that post there's no hope for you.
And neither did I say that, if you read my posts properly!! Nowhere have I said that BB holders should not be clamped if they break the rules. I DID however say that I could see how it could cause more problems for a disabled person than an abled bodied person to have to deal with the clamping.
You are obviously confused as to who is saying what.0 -
So, the fact that I turned up at the hospital more than 30 minutes before my appt time, searched the whole car park several times for any sort of space at all, and then took the only remaining option of leaving my car in a non-obstructing gap in the car park makes me unreasonable and selfish. It would have been more reasonable of me to just go home without attending my appt then?
Would it have been ok if an able bodied person did that?And how am I supposed to wait? I have standing and walking dificulties.
So how would that prevent you waiting? Take a seat.I also have commitments, such as a child who needed collecting from school.
Like millions of other people. Well done.An able-bodied person would have been able to walk down to the bus stop outside the hospital gate and used public transport. I can't.
You can drive a car but you are unable to use public transport which is legally required to have disabled access. Can I ask why?But clamping the vehicle to disable them further is cruel
So it is more wrong to clamp a disabled persons car than an able bodied persons car?(and counter-productive, as is simply means that the vehicle stays where it isn't wanted for longer, while the clamp is removed)
Surely this is the same for anyone?0 -
Would it have been ok if an able bodied person did that?
They could park further away and just walk?You can drive a car but you are unable to use public transport which is legally required to have disabled access. Can I ask why?
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Everyone seems to be assuming the people would be local and would have money with them for public transport. I dont always carry money - especially if i have no reason to need it. And if i were 100miles from home, it would be more than a inconvenience to get home using other means.
And while i would never park in a disabled space, on double yellow lines etc etc.........are you effectively saying that a BB holder breaking traffic regulations shouldnt be punished the same as someone who doesnt have a BB?
But then i'm adult enough to take responsibility for my actions. As i have said before, BB is there to enable people have ease of access to facilities the same as any able bodied person. Not that they should be subject to a different set of rules.
If you dont follow parking regulations then you should expect to be fined/clamped/towed the same as anyone else.
While i may personally realise you are the minority as opposed to the majority, others may mistake your "i'm special and i dont have to follow the same rules as everyone else" attitude and think all BB holders are the same.You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride0 -
I have to say that if anyone clamped my car whilst it was displaying my blue badge, I'd be on to the local press like a shot.
A few months ago I had to visit my local hospital. I turned up ages before my appt time, as I know parking can be difficult, but the car park was full, inc all the disabled spaces. I waited as long as I could to see if a space became free, but eventually had to park on a hatched area between a pathway and a grass verge.
When I returned, my car had a parking ticket (which I ignored and was never followed up), but if my car had been clamped I would have rung my local paper, the bigger Nottingham evening paper, and the local BBC news desk to get the matter covered.
Inciderntally, I did make sure I wasn't obstructing any fire exits or major access routes when I parked.
If you are parked on private property - i.e. a hospital or private roads etc., you can still be clamped if you do not adhere to the parking regulations.
In fact your badge gives no rights at all on private land - only on public roads. It is up to the land owner if they wish to recognise the badge, but they are under no obligation to do so.
Even councils do not have to give any rights to badge holders - that is why many will charge badge holders the same as other motorists.0
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