School bullies

mikey72

Well, if you had said your nephew was being reguarly beaten up, maybe you could justify following the "leader" home and commiting abh on his doorstep.
But abh as a response to name calling, and being pushed a couple of times seemes a tad excessive.
He is very fortunate if he doesn't end up with a criminal record.

gravitytolls

patchwork_cat wrote: »

Sorry to disagree, but a Grandad saying 'in my day we would have bopped him on the nose' is tantamount to incitement and Grandad should have been more aware that what he said might be taken as advice to proceed. He needs to get more street smarts than to go round to the bullies house and tackle him there. Take it forward 20 years and he is an adult and who is the bully? You do not go to someone's house and attack them in their front garden.

Well it's not really is it? My MIL told our girls she used to wear a liberty bodice, but they've not felt the urge to wrap up in vests and bloomers!

At 13 and male, he is likelt to lack the maturity to fully comprehend what his options are, and the idea of getting a bully on his own, away from the others and unawares, probably seemed like a ruddy good idea ~ and if he's left in peace, regardless of a police caution ~ will doubtless continue to think so.

Grandad's often talk about 'their day', I don't really consider it to be incitement. Our children's grandad uses derogatory terms to describe ethnic minorities and homosexuals (funny fellas), despite not being in any way prejudiced, it's simply generational, none of our offspring have felt the need to copy him.

Velcro_Hotdog

mikey72 wrote: »

Well, if you had said your nephew was being reguarly beaten up, maybe you could justify following the "leader" home and commiting abh on his doorstep.
But abh as a response to name calling, and being pushed a couple of times seemes a tad excessive.
He is very fortunate if he doesn't end up with a criminal record.

Have you any idea what effects name calling and being pushed around can have on a someone? Imagine being 13 and having a gang of lads constantly making you feel insignificant and driving your own friends away just because it makes them feel better. The teachers couldn't or wouldn't help and in the end it got bad enough that he came home crying his little eyes out. He wasn't bullied for days he was bullied for months and in the end he took the lad on on his own turf on his own and with out the back up of his gang.
He gave the bully a lesson he will not forget and showed more courage than the little coward who used his gang to help him make life difficult for Alex.

Excessive? No not really its part of growing up

mikey72

Velcro_Hotdog wrote: »

........... he went to the main bully at home, knocked on his door and proceeded to give him a good hiding in his own front garden along with a warning that there is more where that came from if he bullies him again. The boy’s parents are going to call the police as there little angel has been hurt. Can a 13 year old get into any kind of trouble for this?

You asked, maybe you shouldn't if you don't like answers that don't agree with you.

Loz01

It might not have been the right solution, but he wont be getting picked on from now on!

And everyone saying about violence etc - where were the adults/teachers when the poor lad was getting bullied at school, day in, day out?!

Good on him for standing up for himself.

Velcro_Hotdog

mikey72 wrote: »

You asked, maybe you shouldn't if you don't like answers that don't agree with you.

The question I asked was whether he could get into trouble with the police. I disagreed with people who said it was the wrong thing to do.

mikey72

Velcro_Hotdog wrote: »

The question I asked was whether he could get into trouble with the police. I disagreed with people who said it was the wrong thing to do.

I don't see how anything I said wasn't a direct response to that question.

"...if your nephew was being reguarly beaten up, maybe you could justify following the "leader" home and commiting abh on his doorstep.
But abh as a response to name calling, and being pushed a couple of times seemes a tad excessive.

He is very fortunate if he doesn't end up with a criminal record"


He could be prosecuted, if the parents and the child report it.
He's not denying he did it.
He committed abh.
He could get a criminal record.
If it was a response to violence, it wouldn't be as unreasonable to use violence back, but if there was no violence, your nephew would be seen as the aggressor.
If it's not reported, he has been lucky this time.

Velcro_Hotdog

The only part I disagreed with was you saying his actions were excessive. I never asked if it was excessive so thats where the confusion is coming from.

angel223_2

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mikey72

Velcro_Hotdog wrote: »

The only part I disagreed with was you saying his actions were excessive. I never asked if it was excessive so thats where the confusion is coming from.

It probably more depends on what the interviewing officer thinks is excessive if it ever comes to it.

Personally, I wouldn't air your point of view at the time, and I'd certainly try to play down the "more where that came from" remark as well.
But it's your choice, not mine.