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School bullies

My nephew has been getting a hard time at school by a small group all aged 12-13 and its making him resent upset. Last week he came home and burst into tears because it all got too much for him. His parents have spoken to the school three times now and although they say they have spoken to the bullies in question it hasn’t done much good. Here the reason for my post, he spoke to his granddad about this and he replied saying that in his day things where sorted out with a punch up. That usually sorted any issues as neither party wanted to get another bust lip or nose again in future.

Alex then decided this was a good idea, he went to the main bully at home, knocked on his door and proceeded to give him a good hiding in his own front garden along with a warning that there is more where that came from if he bullies him again. The boy’s parents are going to call the police as there little angel has been hurt. Can a 13 year old get into any kind of trouble for this?
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  • fedupnow
    fedupnow Posts: 931 Forumite
    oooooo

    Was the boy hurt badly? That could make a difference.

    My niece did something quite similar. She and her parents had a visit from the police who actually sat her down and cautioned her ... you know, 'you have the right ... anything you say' etc.

    Put the fear of god into her and her parents to be honest. But it didn't come to anything. They all had to go and be interviewed and the police were acting as intermediaries more than anything.

    When my daughter had some problems in school with some bullies and the school failed to respond. I got her to tell the teachers that if they didn't sort it she would. It was a bit of a gamble but paid off as the school stepped in.

    Hopefully, nothing will come of it but all the kids will realise the trouble isn't worth the 'fun' of giving each other a hard time.

    Wish them luck.
  • Velcro_Hotdog
    Velcro_Hotdog Posts: 1,018 Forumite
    The lad has a a bit of a bloody nose and black eye, his ego has been dented though :D

    I shouldn't laugh but...
  • tiamai_d
    tiamai_d Posts: 11,987 Forumite
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    Might be a good idea to make sure the school have documentation that the parents have complained about bullying and that they boy was named.

    I don't think he will get into serious trouble, but technically he could. Usually they are just told off, maybe cautioned. For a frist time offence like this, which was provoked he will probably just get a telling off.

    Though, sorry I have to say, good on him. If the school wont do anything then this is going to happen.
  • Owain_Moneysaver
    Owain_Moneysaver Posts: 11,393 Forumite
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    Unfortunately he is above the age of criminal responsibility and could be dealt with by the Youth Justice System. More Info and Children's Legal Centre.

    I would strongly urge you to take specialist pro-active legal advice as the consequences of even being interviewed for 'assault against a child' and this showing on an Enhanced CRB Disclosure to a potential employer in ten or twenty years time could be devastating.

    Good on him, though.
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  • fedupnow
    fedupnow Posts: 931 Forumite
    edited 14 July 2010 at 2:20PM
    The lad has a a bit of a bloody nose and black eye, his ego has been dented though :D

    I shouldn't laugh but...

    No you shouldn't :naughty:

    I suspect if it is just a 'bit of a knock' they will just give him a ticking off. They may leave him sweat a bit first though.

    I would do as somebody else suggested and collate any evidence to show there had been previous problems in school. The teachers should back him up if there's nothing in writing.

    I would suggest leaving out the bit about 'Grandad told me' ... it could go two ways. Some of us are thinking, 'Good old Grandad' others may think .... 'Oh, he comes from one of those families does he.'

    I would suggest your nephew is very apologetic to the police. He could promise never to do anything like it again etc.




    He can always give the boy with the swollen face a smirk and a wink on the quiet later.
    (I'll deny writing that if questioned later)
  • Reggie_Rebel
    Reggie_Rebel Posts: 5,036 Forumite
    Good for him. He's a child, asked adults for help. He got none so sorted it.

    I doubt he'll be bullied now
    It's taken me years of experience to get this cynical
  • mrsvicx
    mrsvicx Posts: 426 Forumite
    Sorry I cant give any legal advice, but I really felt the need to show my support. I was bullied for 4 years at secondary school and I wish I had had the courage to stand up to them, bloody good on him I say!!
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  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    How did they bully him at school, and what marks did the gang leave on him, bruises, bleeding, torn clothes etc, as that should have been photographed and recorded.
  • jimbms
    jimbms Posts: 1,100 Forumite
    Unfortunately he is above the age of criminal responsibility and could be dealt with by the Youth Justice System. More Info and Children's Legal Centre.

    I would strongly urge you to take specialist pro-active legal advice as the consequences of even being interviewed for 'assault against a child' and this showing on an Enhanced CRB Disclosure to a potential employer in ten or twenty years time could be devastating.

    Good on him, though.
    I partially agre, but I would inform school that unless they take action and also inform the parents of your intention that I would involve the police, as you say the little scroat is above the age of criminal responsibility, the last word being the key one, for me I put my kids first, if that means the bully gets a record for life then tough.
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  • fedupnow
    fedupnow Posts: 931 Forumite
    jimbms wrote: »
    I partially agre, but I would inform school that unless they take action and also inform the parents of your intention that I would involve the police, as you say the little scroat is above the age of criminal responsibility, the last word being the key one, for me I put my kids first, if that means the bully gets a record for life then tough.


    I think you may have misread the initial post.
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