Got the evidence - now what?

andyandflo

NASA wrote: »

I dont see much point in claiming ESA(C) when PC is payable but people seem to do it all the time.

I think some people just want to make a point that they are sick (In their own minds).

Have a look at the permitted work rules then. An oasis of options.
Self employment - over 30 hours, net profit less than £20 pw!
Tax Credits - dsisabled element!

NASA_2

andyandflo wrote: »

Have a look at the permitted work rules then. An oasis of options.
Self employment - over 30 hours, net profit less than £20 pw!
Tax Credits - dsisabled element!

I've seen the permitted work rules - a load of !!!!!!!! is what they are - if you are fit enough for permitted work then you are fit enough to work.

andyandflo

NASA wrote: »

So if you wrote, or gathered together a submission of a billion words, they would be obligated to read every word?

No, they wont read it all, and they will make a decision on way or another.

Up to you what you do after that. You shouldnt have gathered together so much irrelevant stuff.

It's all relevant to my current illnesses!

If they don't - they have to answer why not, if I fail, by way of Statement of Reasons don't they?

andyandflo

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

Sorry? You are incapable of work and yet you are worried about losing money under the Permitted Work rules???

No not worried at all.

I am willing to lose my Pension Credit of £5 pw in exchange for using the Permitted Work rules. It gives a lot of scope.

dmg24

If you really are not fit for work, I do hope the appeal finds in your favour. However, I do think you are approaching it in the wrong way, and making things far too difficult.

NASA_2

andyandflo wrote: »

It's all relevant to my current illnesses!

If they don't - they have to answer why not, if I fail, by way of Statement of Reasons don't they?

They have to give their reasons in the statement of reasons, of course, so I am sure that is what they will do.

I'm sure they will give due regard to your submission.

sunnyone

andyandflo wrote: »

I never said it was, I couldn't function at all on anything stronger. The Pain Clinic issued it.

For me, I am happy with it. It is difficult to work whilst taking it and that suffices.
Any worse and I go into hospital.

The prescription suits my needs which is not always pain relief, I do have to live a life as well you know!

Pain managment isnt just about opiates and they are only a part of pain management alongside other drugs/treatment and the stronger drugs affect you less because they are both PRN or 24 hours a day delivery, you dont seem to understand pain managment very well, its about living with pain and not using the drugs as an excuse, thats what your morphine posts hear are about, using everyones pre programmed negative attitude to morphine as the strongest pain killer in the world to prove that you are disabled or in pain.

That dosnt wash with people who are experts in pain and fight for relief for all there lives.

andyandflo

NASA wrote: »

I've seen the permitted work rules - a load of !!!!!!!! is what they are - if you are fit enough for permitted work then you are fit enough to work.

tut tut, now keep your hair on!

There is a valid reason for Permitted Work - it is to ease people back into the workplace. Your idea is black and white - sick or fit.
There is an awful lot of grey in between.

Of course the rules can be intrepreted in many ways, but that is a good thing - it shows initiative!

andyandflo

dmg24 wrote: »

If you really are not fit for work, I do hope the appeal finds in your favour. However, I do think you are approaching it in the wrong way, and making things far too difficult.

ummm please tell me how?

NASA_2

andyandflo wrote: »

tut tut, now keep your hair on!

There is a valid reason for Permitted Work - it is to ease people back into the workplace. Your idea is black and white - sick or fit.
There is an awful lot of grey in between.

Of course the rules can be intrepreted in many ways, but that is a good thing - it shows initiative!

My hair is on.

Permitted work is one of those well meaning ideas that has just allowed the cheats to abuse the system even more.

Next to no-one uses it to integrate themselves back into the workplace. People reduce their hours just to claim sick and get extra money. Aided and abetted by worthless GP's.