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Buying a house Dog related Covenant/Condition, help please.

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  • GJUK_2
    GJUK_2 Posts: 38 Forumite
    Cissi wrote: »
    The OP has already stated that there are neighbours on each side, just not to the rear. But as far as I can see, the key question is still who owns the covenant, as I think they're the only ones who could make a legal case to enforce it - and they would have to prove that they had been directly affected by the breach. So if it's the original builder - which sounds likely to me - then I don't think there is a problem. If, however, the neighbours are somehow involved then I think you need to steer clear.

    Thank you for that advise, this is the kind of response I was looking for, clear and related to the question.

    Thanks.

    Jon
  • GJUK_2
    GJUK_2 Posts: 38 Forumite
    It could be that you just can't smell them anymore. Short coated breeds smell; a lot.

    Obviously the urine smells as does the other stuff that comes out their back end. Bleach and keeping the yard clean stops most of the problem.
    A few years ago my then OH, wanted a boxer. The breeders we looked at were like you, living in built up areas. One of the breeders told us she had lost dogs when her neighbours poisoned them because of the "noise and smell", yet she insisted her dogs were quiet and didn't smell. It wasn't true. To make matters worse, our car wouldn't start and the breeder invited us back into her house while we waited for the RAC: we declined as we preferred the cold March weather to the smell of her house.

    So that must mean my house smells like theirs. I run a tight 'ship'. I'm not some chav that breeds dogs for some quick cash. I spend most evenings cleaning, washing and feeding my animals. Please don't just presume we're all dirty ****ers, as I'm not.
  • GJUK_2
    GJUK_2 Posts: 38 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    Any dog bigger than a cat should only be allowed in the rural countryside. They are a nuisance to neighbours, parks and just about everybody.

    Thanks for your input, if you wouldnt mind not posting on any of my threads ever again. You'd make me very happy. ;)
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    GJUK wrote: »
    Thanks for your input, if you wouldnt mind not posting on any of my threads ever again. You'd make me very happy. ;)

    Sorry, I did not realise you owned the thread.
  • kazwookie
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    Ask your solicitor, how you go about removing the covenant
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  • GJUK_2
    GJUK_2 Posts: 38 Forumite
    I find it hard to believe that a house with puppies in for maybe 3m twice a year would really smell that much from the outside? Because the smell once you're inside is really no-one's business but your own, just like if you choose to smoke like a chimney inside, or spray glade about 24/7, or have horrid paisley carpets. And the noise.... how far are the neighbours? Again, surely for most of the time the pups are in your house they can't be big enough to make MUCH noise (at least not the kind of barks that carry through a couple of walls and a few metres of air). But I don't know that much about how long they are with you before they go to their permanent owners, maybe they do get pretty raucous before they leave you.

    They're with you about 8 weeks, from 5 weeks onwards they potter around outside.

    Obviously I'm guessing you have a couple of adult pet dogs,

    Four at the moment, yeah. One dog three !!!!!es.
    well aside from the covenant I would say on the whole having people move in next door with dogs is one of those things that you have to accept in life considering how many people have them.

    True, if my dogs bark I stop them but there's normally a reason for why they're barking in the first place.
    Sounds like you need to find out who placed the covenant as someone above said. And whether any of your new neighbours have dogs themselves! Are the houses around you similar? If so they are likely to have the same covenant; so if you moved in and then had problems with the dogs and neighbours they may know that you're breaking it.

    Thanks I will try and do that.

    One guy next door has at least 1 dog, I could hear it barking through the wall as we were viewing the house.

    The other person is an old lady who never goes outside.

    Will speak with my solicitor once again today to try and find out more.

    Thanks

    Jon
  • GJUK_2
    GJUK_2 Posts: 38 Forumite
    kazwookie wrote: »
    Ask your solicitor, how you go about removing the covenant

    She advised that it would cost around £20,000. :eek:

    So I thought "**** that idea then."
  • prudryden
    prudryden Posts: 2,075 Forumite
    As I understand it, only the originator of the convenant can enforce it - so probably little chance of that.
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  • rachie29
    rachie29 Posts: 103 Forumite
    I have to say I think some of the answers to this thread are pretty disgusting. It's obvious that people who don't like dogs or who have had a bad experience are just venting out their frustrations against this person who is trying to seek advice. If you havent got anything nice or constructive to say, then don't say it. Were supposed to help each other out on here not get one over on each other.

    GJMUK i'm sorry I can't offer you any help with regards to the house as I am currently in the process of looking to buy my first ever house. You have however, pointed out something to me that I will definitely look for when looking for my house! I wish you every sucess with your dogs and hope that they bring you and their new owners lot's of happiness. If your yard/garden is kept clean and tidy like you say, then at the end of the day as long as it's not affecting anyone else and you get the law issue sorted it's absolutley nobodys business.

    It's a shame that these people have tarred you with the same brush as irresponsible dog owners that they have come across. Perhaps they should be open minded enough to realise that we are not all like that and most of us keep our dogs clean, healthy and happy.
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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Maybe the old lady next door moved into the house because of the covenent. Seems a bit unfair if that is the case.
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