~NRP~ Help Needed Desperately!~

bdt1

Hi, can't remember how long ours took to go to Court, a few months though I'm sure (3-4 months) if I think back. We attended, and the Magistrate was in tears (as we were), when she told us, she no option but to grant the LO against us, yet, she said 'she had never felt so powerless, in her own Court', she urged us to urgently gain specialist legal advice, so chances are it often gets granted whether you owe it or not.

The bailiffs I'm sure are not in the slightest interested in garden pots, bird feeders etc, and I have never heard of them hopping ovre garden fences, the ones I've met have been very professional and civilised, they are interested in goods that will sell easily - expensive cars, plasma tv's, expensive furniture, etc etc.

The bailiffs will do a vehicle check, and don't worry they can't touch your daughter's car, nor the motability one (neither are yours)

Dare say your case will be thrown back to CSA for further enforcement, AS LONG AS you do not open the door to them, NEVER!!

Didismump

Just got home from a day away from the house ( it HAD to be done as I could NOT sleep at all last night ..and just laid awake worrying)...
Thanx Kelloggs for your PM..and thanx bdt1 for the above...I hope it DOES take similar timing as we will be well and truly back by then..and I will feel happier knowing I am dealing with the Bailiffs rather than leaving the poor house-sitters in a pickle...
Had a letter from the MP today ( useless)..and he is all behind the CSA ruling that WE have to prove the paternity issue....I will copy it on here later...but I have always felt that he has not really helped alot simply as it comes across that he has never read anything in our file...and he only ever scanned whatever I have put infront of him...never read it indepth...nor has he ever advised us to try and find anyone else to help.. other than writing to his 'acquaintance' at the CSA..
I have tried to explain the MEF situation and rulings in place at THAT time..and he KNOWs factually that my OH never received the MEF in 1993 as he wrote on his behalf before I was ever on the scene...but he still 'thinks' we hould take it to Court ourselves ( with what money I ask??..and NOT knowing where either Mother or 'Child' have lived since the 90's)..

So..bdt1..you made me fair giggle ( thank you..;)) when I saw that the Bailiffs are only interested in
''goods that will sell easily - expensive cars, plasma tv's, expensive furniture, etc etc.''.....as we have NOTHING like that at all...
Neither car is ours ( dare they touch DD car she WILL kill 'em as it is her pride & joy... & ALL hers..;))
The old TV we have is out of the ark ( as we bearly watch TV....who does nowadays with all the junk and repeats????)..the combi TV/DVD in our bedroom is mine ( and I can prove it as my parents bought it for me last year prior to me having radiation treatment and being in solitary confinement for 3 weeks)..and the same applies for DD combi TV in her bedroom ( Mum thankfully paid for both on her debit card and as b/day prezees for us both)
So it would be the basic three piece suite ( which again was/is mine ( prior to us being together..so its over 10 years old..but I think I have lost the receipt now..dammit)...our beds..which again are all in my name ( somewhere...receipts are up in smoke but I COULD get Bank statements to prove the fact) as I bought them all prior to us being together..

Infact as OH said..factually everything in the house is mine ( I actually also put £41,000 deposit down on the house from the sale of my previous property...he put zero ( as he previously rented)...and YES I DO have a Declaration of Trust which I paid the Solicitor for when we bought the house...
So if any charge is placed on the property..it will be me who loses out..factually ( if we want to set things apart..:( )..but what CAN I do???
Nothing I guess.....as I could not get my name on the mortgage at the time we bought this as my previous partner had left me in debt,so I could not be placed on this mortgage ( even though it was my money that secured the house for us by means of the deposit)
Isn't it all a Bummer???...Ya Boo..Sucks to the CSA...:(

bdt1

Thanks Didismump - at least you got a giggle today

On a lighter note, when my hubs spoke to a bailiff relating to our case, the bailiff concerned told hubs that although we had a 34k LO against us, and as the bailiff had been to our property more than once, there was no way we had anywhere near 34k of property/assets that bailiffs could seize for the CSA (or anyone else for that matter!). But the bailiff did tell hubs that our 34k was a mere morsel of a CSA debt, apparently he had a guy on his books who 'owed' CSA over £300,000, lived in a massive house with electric gates etc etc and they hadn't been able to touch him!

WOW - just wonder if this person has ever been on this site? Just goes to show, even bailiffs realise there are many far and wide with a great variety of CSA stories to tell.

Didismump

Rubbish letter from our Local MP who has not bothered looking into the case AT all!!! ( as follows)

Dear Mr.*******
Further to my representations on your behalf I enclose a copy of the response that I received from (his 'acquaintance' at the CSA) together with the schedule prepared by the CSA.
While I appreciate that this response will be unpalatable it is,clearly,unequivocal and definative.
If therefore you wish to challenge the paternity of (child) then I am afraid that you will, as indicated by (his acquaintance at the CSA) in his letter- Have to make application to the Court.
With my best wishes, Blah de blah de blah.....( Thanx....what a load of old tosh..:p)

He then enclosed a breakdown of all the years arrears ( which he knows we already have ) and advised us to write to the Client Services Director ( which we already have) ....
Too Late Mr. MP....Kelloggs and everyone else know FAR more than you care to try..AND have looked into the facts regarding the MEF..which YOU have failed to highlight to us as your constituents...
Guess who WON'T be getting OUR vote at the next Local Election....;)

bdt1

Well..............we didn't vote for our local MP either, in fact voted for another party. Based on the MP's lack of help with our CSA case, the MP Assistant sent an e-mail to us stating that 'if he had paid more in the way of child support in the past, then we might not be in this situation'.................an e-mail I have kept for a later day................................(the MP got voted in anyway).

Thing is that my hubs ALWAYS paid the assessed child support, he did have some arrears, but these were aas a result of re-assessment, and time it takes CSA to inform you of new amount. The only time he paid no child support was when he 'for a very short while' was assesed as a nil assessment!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our MP and the monkey (MP Assistant) were useless and no help in the slightest in our case, but I others have been found to be more helpful.

Didismump

Must be honest..looking back through all the paperwork I have in the file...our MP has only ever sent what he has been already advised by my OH..and never looked into the facts NOR come up with anything any different that might help or guide my OH to looking for help from anyone in the know...
The trouble is OH has STILL never been advised in any letters to contact ICE..and when I rang them the other day they said they can ONLY get involved once we have been advised via letter from the Agency..:(
So..hence I have now also written to the CEO...hoping HE will send me there..and in the meantime TRY and stall for time (HOW???) to stop the LO going to Court ..
I have not been here today (nor will I tomorrow) to be able to call NACSA...and I simply do NOT know what to do OR where to go now..I seem to have exhausted everyone..and yet no-one seems to steer us to ICE ( only ALL of you wonderful peeps...:))
Dammit...that they won't talk to me...and dammit that I BET the DPF WILL be doctored now I have advised them all of my application..
WHY am I SO honest??? ( Foolishly at times..)
It IS so unjustified that my OH may NEVER know IF he is the 'childs Father..and yet he MAY have to pay all THAT money..having never seen her... NOR knowing where she or her Mother are ( thereby being unable to get a DNA test, even IF we could scrape the money together from our benefits for one)
Local MP was NO help..as you can see from his letter..and HOW we are expected to prove anything when we CANNOT get his X's signature on the DNA application ( as we do not know where she is) beggers belief....No signature..no DNA test...No proof of parentage...:(
''Round and Round and Round we go.....Where THIS will stop..Nobody knows''......:(

RAS

Any news OP?

Didismump

Hi All...
Updated news for all....Awaiting Court hearing for Enforcement of LO...:(
Received letter from Complaints Dept acknowledging my complaint..they are STILL in the right as far as they are concerned..so I wrote back again stating our case as CLEAR as possible with ALL the reasons for his query of paternity ( as they STILL say he never gave sufficient evidence when he initially denied paternity...and yet after HIS statement they took one from the PWC and then took HER evidence as fact... so 'presumed' him to be the Father simply as his name is on the B/Certificate and she (presumably) denied the affair..Great huh??)

Received letter (one sentence only!!!) today from CEO saying they are looking into my complaint and will reply regarding such, asap...
Fiances ME/CFS/Fibromyalgia/Depression is on a flare up..as is mine also..(my hair is STILL falling out..:(..
Never felt quite SO scared ( fear of the unknown)..
Had super strong padlocks fitted to gate (entrance to back garden) and garden shed...;)
Getting as prepared in advance as possible, in preparation for the arrival of the Bailiffs...
Finding ALL this very hard due to our disabilities/health probs...DAMMIT!!!
Will update as and when I hear anything...but am going to fight this to the bitter end....

He has a right to know whether this girl is his or not...they SHOULD have offered him the funded DNA test years ago..He has lost all her growing up years IF she is his..and he has had no idea of her whereabouts since she was approx 5-7months old (ish)..
He has always said he will stand by the fact IF she is his...and has never shied away from wanting to know if she is his or not..and IF she is and we have to find the £11,000 plus arrears..then I have NO idea what we will do as we do not have a bean 'in savings'..
Benefits to not allow for savings....:(
HOW the hell they expect us to pay any arrears of THAT amount..God only knows..
But first we HAVE to know IF she is his child or the other guy who PWC was involved with....
And what happens IF the 'child' at almost 19 years old refuses a DNA test???
How complicated CAN life be???
I await the DPF..(assuming they WILL now be 'doctored' as advised they prob will (by NACSA) due to me telling all CSA depts in my various recent letters that I had applied for the files) ..and we go from there methinks...:)
Onward and upward ( I hope...;))..and Keep Smiling through the tears....

Didismump

Another thought.....
Anyone got any ideas what I can do regarding pretty much ALL the household contents being mine from my previous home and none of my OH's???
As we have lived here for almost 9 years now I obviously do not have any receipts nor proof of the fact that everything in the house was bought by me prior to us moving here..
I have looked at everything 'we' have in the house..and apart from the main TV ( which my OH did buy) everything else HAS been bought by me or my daughter...
Am already VERY gutted that I put all the deposit down on the house (£41,000) and find that my Declaration Of Trust stating so will stand for nothing IF the Courts put a charge/CCJ on the house ( as the mortgage is in my Fiances name only...:(
The fact that we have lived on benefits for 4 1/2 years now makes me question also..HOW we are supposed to pay off any arrears IF we ever find if this girl is his or not, too....
Any answers on all of THESE queries???..PLEASE...;)
You can see how my mind is going round and round...What a crappy ride on THIS carousel...:(

bdt1

Don't worry about contents of the house, and padlocks on sheds etc, as long as you DO NOT let bailiffs into your home EVER, and do not ever leave doors and windows unlocked the the case will be referred back to CSA, JUST DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THEM WHEN THEY DO TURN UP