Budget - tougher for DLA claimants

krisskross

sh1305 wrote: »

Even when the child is a teenager or young adult?

I guess then you are talking about self harm. No amount of supervision will prevent this if the person is determined. It is often an attention seeking gambit rather than a serious attempt to harm oneself. Person needs therapy

Indie_Kid

Not just self harm. There would be many reasons why someone needs constant supervision. I need supervision due to both physical and mental health problems.

sock-knitter

krisskross wrote: »

I don't suppose he does more than any working mother with youngsters to look after.

Doubt any 'carer' actually gives the caree a full 5 hours a day, unless you count time spent watching TV together etc.

one of my sons gets a minimum of 7 hours care from me when he isnt in school, sometimes more, and weekends and school hols, he gets at least 12 hours care, he needs constant superviosion due to his MH condition

Doom_and_Gloom

krisskross wrote: »

I don't suppose he does more than any working mother with youngsters to look after.

Doubt any 'carer' actually gives the caree a full 5 hours a day, unless you count time spent watching TV together etc.

There are loads of things that can make 5 hours of care.

• getting a person up
• helping them get dressed
• brushing their hair
• helping them to another room
• cooking/preparing a meal or snack and taking it to them
• doing someone a drink and taking it to them
• helping them do their physio
• help to get in a bath as well as bathe - including washing of hair and shaving
• clearing items that the disabled person used (bowls/plates/cups etc)
• getting them a book so they can read
• help if they fall
• help to the tiolet
• help getting undressed
• help to get into bed

These are care needs just off the top of my head that are every day.

Obviously on days to hospitals/shopping/going out etc there are more care hours involved.
For example it would be at least 3 hours of care just for a for a hopsital visit - getting to station, help on train, getting to the hopsital from the station, help around the hospital then there is getting back home after.

When you look at the hours over a week it's more than likely that a carer cares for 35 hours actually - most likely more.

Just because you might not care for at least 5 hours a day does not mean others don't provide these hours or more.

Doom_and_Gloom

krisskross wrote: »

We all have supervised our children 24/7. That is what parents of young children do. We didn't lock them in the cupboard under the stairs.

So a normal child grows up so you no longer have to supervise them all the time anymore. That is not the case with the disabled and you know that. Don't try and make out as if a few years watching a normal child is anything like the care needs of the disabled. The needs of the disabled won't end after a specified time like it does with normal children.

krisskross

Doom_and_Gloom wrote: »

There are loads of things that can make 5 hours of care.

• getting a person up
• helping them get dressed
• brushing their hair
• helping them to another room
• cooking/preparing a meal or snack and taking it to them doing someone a drink and taking it to them
• helping them do their physio
• help to get in a bath as well as bathe - including washing of hair and shaving
• clearing items that the disabled person used (bowls/plates/cups etc)
• getting them a book so they can read
• help if they fall
• help to the tiolet
• help getting undressed
• help to get into bed

These are care needs just off the top of my head that are every day.

Obviously on days to hospitals/shopping/going out etc there are more care hours involved.
For exapmle it would be at least 3 hours of care just for a for a hopsital visit - getting to station, help on train, getting to the hopsital from the station, help around the hospital then there is getting back home after.

When you look at the hours over a week it's more than likely that a carer cares for 35 hours actually - most likely more.

Just because you might not care for at least 5 hours a day does not mean others don't provide these hours or more.

And there's me thinking these are things you would just do because I am ablebodied and he isn't. He is having cataract surgery on Tuesday. i thought i was going as moral support and because he is deaf and probably won't hear everything, but no I am a 'carer'.

I'm a wife so have always done the cooking, washing up, washing and ironing etc. Gosh I have been a carer for decades and just didn't realise it.

We went shopping and for lunch out together on Friday so another 5 hours there. I seem to be putting in more hours than when I worked full time.

krisskross

sh1305 wrote: »

Not just self harm. There would be many reasons why someone needs constant supervision. I need supervision due to both physical and mental health problems.

How on earth did you manage at University? Surely no one provided constant supervision.

zzzLazyDaisy

My 16 yr old dgd has had uncontrolled seizures for the past two years which so far have not responded to medication. She can fit without warning her recent fits include crossing a busy main road, while in the bath, on the stairs and while making pan of pasta (no she isn't allowed, but she did it anyway- she's 16 and just wanted to get herself a snack).

She has to have supervision 24 hours a day. Her mum has to be on call all day every day wherever she is, and whatever she is doing - she once left a dentists chair halfway through a filling to go and see to her daughter at school - and has to get up every couple of hours through the night to check on her.

It is nothing like looking after young children (she also has two toddlers from her second marriage, and is in no doubt which is easier)

cyclonebri1

No disrespect to above posters but this is about change not the same old arguments :shhh::shhh::shhh::shhh::shhh::shhh::shhh:

Indie_Kid

krisskross wrote: »

How on earth did you manage at University? Surely no one provided constant supervision.

I was rarely alone at uni.