Budget - tougher for DLA claimants

Indie_Kid

blue_monkey wrote: »

Yep, I already quoted on that, mine has been with me for 22 years. But to claim DLA for it? No, not appropriate at all.

Tomorrow something could start to take me over the edge again but the most I'd claim is sick pay because I could not work, certainly not DLA.

People with depression have extra costs and are just as entitled as those of us with physical problems too.

blue_monkey_2

_shel wrote: »

Just because you wanted to be a martyr and struggle along without support or medication does not mean everyone can!

If I didnt take my medication I'd likely die chocking on my own tongue. If I didnt recieve personal and financial support I'd probably not be able to go out to work and would become fully dependent on the state.

OK not sure when I said about being a martyr as I clearly said earlier I have to take my medication or I'd probably die, I'd certainly not be able to get up the stairs or walk around the house.

However, that does not give me an automatic right to hold out my hand for money, sure it would be nice, but for what would I need it for? A holiday?

de1amo

my neice was given a diagnosis of mild autism early on in her life--it was pushed for by my very alert sister who pursued any doctor who would give her time--my neice was a wilful child who had a mother who basically wasnt up to being a mother--she got this diagnosis and has pushed for all the advantages she could get for my neice --taxis everyday to school because my sister didnt want to get up and see her daughter get to school---my neice is 18 now and very normal but to my knowledge my sister is still milking the system for every penny and converting my neice to being a life long receiver of benefits---my neice is off to uni next year and my sister and her working husband live a very comfortable lifestyle in a big house but my sister as is the human desease is greedy --my father just raises his eyebrows!!

Flutter

blue_monkey wrote: »

And there are those of us that HAVE got through it without the need to ask for benefits. I can personally speak from experience.

As I stated before, had the option been there not to work and to get money for nothing then yes, I probably would have done, I'd have popped some more pills no doubt. Only I did not have that option as it never existed when I was ill. I had just a few days off work in that time and was certainly never signed off for a length of time, I am sure I was a joy to be around but my work kept me going. If work got tough - as it sometimes did, as did the people I worked with - I looked for something else and moved on. I had no friends or family around me, no one I could talk to, no internet forums such as this, no-one to give me money when I had none, I lived on supernoodles and chips but hey ho. I did it because I had to do it. I'd spend my nights crying when life got too tough but I'd go into work the next day - because I had to.

The difference these days is that because there is this dependancy on benefits there is no incentive for people to get better. Yes, I agree, there are some people who cannot cope and for some to go into a unit is the only option, however, there are some people who by a change in job or lifestyle who do them the world of good. For me it was counselling that helped but I had to wait for it. There should be more counsellors trained in helping people with their problems and the counselling should be offered right away and there not be a 6 month wait as there is at the moment because a lot can happen in 6 months.

People WOULD cope because they had to cope, I am sorry if people do not like me saying that but it is true, I did and I am sure many others would too if they were not living on handouts that paid more than a salary does. There are many times I could have been signed off with stress and depression but that would have just left me sitting at home wallowing in my illness and would that have done me any good? In fact, I changed doctors once and the first thing he did was write me a prescription, no listening, no advice. If I'd have been stuck at home I'd have had more time to think on my problems and tried to top myself again no doubt which obviously would have done me the world of good.

There are lots that need changing, DLA is a benefit that pays for the additional needs a condition brings, if you are sick then you need sick pay while off work. Those in genuine need and those who need care will continue to get it, their carers will still get CA, their carers will not be expected to work. However, those who do not have a need will either be put off or will be wheedled out. Unfortunately, those that do have a need have to also have to go through being assessed because of the people who are greedy and selfish enough to pretend to have disabilities to get more money from the DWP.

Sorry for those who do not like what I have written and yes, I agree, there are some who do have severe MH problems who do need more than this - but from someone who has been there, sitting at home just gives you more time to wallow in your problems and you are sitting on a self destruct button. I am where I am now because I was no able to do that because otherwise I would have had no money. Labour has created a generation of dependency and people who think having 'stress and panic attacks' because they cannot cope with work entitles them to a life on benefits. And it is those that have got a shock coming.

Bluemonkey, you come across as extemely bitter to me that DLA wasn't there for you when you needed it and it seems for that reason you're peed off that people can get it now.

Also, there are so many various levels of Mental health, (you should know) you're lucky in a certain way that your illness wasn't so severe enough so that you could work.

Yes, you may have been through depression, but you haven't been through everyone elses experience of it, have you? because you talk like you have...

50Twuncle

davidhwdn wrote: »

I hope and pray ATOS are not involved

I feel the same as you - ATOS are appallingly (mis)-managed and should not be allowed to carry on the way that they do - but the government decided almost 5 years ago to give this shambles a contract to deal with DLA claims - so Yes - they most definitely WILL be involved.... for at least the next 2 years (7 year contract)
http://www.whywaitforever.com/dwpatosbusiness.html
In the first quarter this year - ATOS had a turnover in the UK of over £200 million - so someone is doing well in the recession

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Why has this thread turned into one about depression and if it is or is not an illness or the rights and wrongs about claiming DLA for it?

People claim DLA for many other disabilities and conditions as well!

lilac_lady

kendalls_cave wrote: »

actually no i can not physically use a oven/knifes as I am not safe enough to which is why I eat at the hospital.. it would seem you think you know more about my illness (bipolar) than my consultant and medical team !

Not being able to use an oven or a knife because of depresson/bipolar fades into insignificance when people with missing arms, hands or fingers are being asked to justify their need for DLA help.

blue_monkey_2

sh1305 wrote: »

Do you have access to their medical records? Are you with them 24/7?

LOL, please don't think I am lying or exagerating. We know because we know, that is all I'll say.

And with that I am unsubscribing else I'll be here all day and I've got cat poo to pick up from the front garden that is getting a bit stinky in this hot weather!! Nice.

Indie_Kid

lilac_lady wrote: »

Not being able to use an oven or a knife because of depresson/bipolar fades into insignificance when people with missing arms, hands or fingers are being asked to justify their need for DLA help.

Just as significant, imo.

Oldernotwiser

MRSTITTLEMOUSE wrote: »

I have to say I have never ever had a GP that I could "manipulate" to my advantage.
Luckily I've never been in a position to need the services of my GP much but when I have seen him or her they make it pretty clear they make the decisions and are in charge.
I can't see many GPs risking their professional reputation by allowing the patient to call the shots to be honest.

I would change GPs if I had someone who acted as you say; people should be partners in their own healthcare rather than expecting their doctor to play God.

Regarding manipulation, we have had posters on other boards who have signed their patient off sick because someone else in the family was ill. If you don't know that this sort of thing goes on then you have led a sheltered life.