Budget - tougher for DLA claimants

sox8369

de1amo - He sounds like a right old tough boot - its hard enough to deal with any form of medical condition/disability - but not to have the support of your own family is pretty rough for you.

My condition is hereditary - and it was my father that 'gave' it to me - but thats the only thing the old sod did give me - !!!

So i understand where you are coming from x

blue_monkey_2

preciousillusions wrote: »

It is beyond me how people who have not experienced what it is like for another person, in their shoes, dealing with a mental health issue including depression which can be severe and life-long, have the nerve to judge other people. I really thought we had come along with regards to mental health awareness in this country but it appears not by this thread. Depression can at an extreme level cause all sorts of emotional and physical difficulties. I would never claim that i knew what it was like or how hard it is for any other person unless i had actually lived through everything they had, so why some people feel they are entitled to do that is baffling. It's condescending and completely insensitive, and the comments about depression just being about 'feeling a bit low' or 'getting takeaways because you can't be bothered to cook' are absolutely STUPID, and laughable tbh. I mean !!!!!!?

And there are those of us that HAVE got through it without the need to ask for benefits. I can personally speak from experience.

As I stated before, had the option been there not to work and to get money for nothing then yes, I probably would have done, I'd have popped some more pills no doubt. Only I did not have that option as it never existed when I was ill. I had just a few days off work in that time and was certainly never signed off for a length of time, I am sure I was a joy to be around but my work kept me going. If work got tough - as it sometimes did, as did the people I worked with - I looked for something else and moved on. I had no friends or family around me, no one I could talk to, no internet forums such as this, no-one to give me money when I had none, I lived on supernoodles and chips but hey ho. I did it because I had to do it. I'd spend my nights crying when life got too tough but I'd go into work the next day - because I had to.

The difference these days is that because there is this dependancy on benefits there is no incentive for people to get better. Yes, I agree, there are some people who cannot cope and for some to go into a unit is the only option, however, there are some people who by a change in job or lifestyle who do them the world of good. For me it was counselling that helped but I had to wait for it. There should be more counsellors trained in helping people with their problems and the counselling should be offered right away and there not be a 6 month wait as there is at the moment because a lot can happen in 6 months.

People WOULD cope because they had to cope, I am sorry if people do not like me saying that but it is true, I did and I am sure many others would too if they were not living on handouts that paid more than a salary does. There are many times I could have been signed off with stress and depression but that would have just left me sitting at home wallowing in my illness and would that have done me any good? In fact, I changed doctors once and the first thing he did was write me a prescription, no listening, no advice. If I'd have been stuck at home I'd have had more time to think on my problems and tried to top myself again no doubt which obviously would have done me the world of good.

There are lots that need changing, DLA is a benefit that pays for the additional needs a condition brings, if you are sick then you need sick pay while off work. Those in genuine need and those who need care will continue to get it, their carers will still get CA, their carers will not be expected to work. However, those who do not have a need will either be put off or will be wheedled out. Unfortunately, those that do have a need have to also have to go through being assessed because of the people who are greedy and selfish enough to pretend to have disabilities to get more money from the DWP.

Sorry for those who do not like what I have written and yes, I agree, there are some who do have severe MH problems who do need more than this - but from someone who has been there, sitting at home just gives you more time to wallow in your problems and you are sitting on a self destruct button. I am where I am now because I was no able to do that because otherwise I would have had no money. Labour has created a generation of dependency and people who think having 'stress and panic attacks' because they cannot cope with work entitles them to a life on benefits. And it is those that have got a shock coming.

government_slave

covlass wrote: »

My daughters DLA will be up for renewal when she is 16 & I hope she does have to have a medical to be honest after fighting 18mnths with DLA last time it was a joke. I also agree that it is Vital these people fully understand Autism after all if they are going to do a medical on a person with Autism then surely they should fully understand what it is !

I fully agree. I can remember one time taking my son [then 8yrs old] to see GP because he wasnt sleeping at all. He didnt even know what Autism was and promptly told me I was an overprotective mother and that he would grow out of Autism as he got older!!! Never went back to see him again.

Indie_Kid

blue_monkey wrote: »

And there are those of us that HAVE got through it without the need to ask for benefits. I can personally speak from experience.

Just because you were able to work through your depression, doesn't man others can. I currently know someone who has spent most of this year in hospital. Soon, she will move to a care home because she's that ill.

Unfortunately, those that do have a need have to also have to go through being assessed because of the people who are greedy and selfish enough to pretend to have disabilities to get more money from the DWP.

What does this have to do with people claiming DLA for depression?

de1amo

i am still no wiser as to what is going to happen in 2013--as i heard the budget as it was spoken he definately said that all new applicants for dla would be assessed by appointment after 2013---he didnt refer to existing people--i have read on other thread people expressing the same fact.-when they introduced the atos scheme they didnt apply it to existing dwp clients at first---it would be impossible to assess all the people on dla personally because of the sheer volume--i suspose they could employ loads more people into government to save lots of money!!

blue_monkey_2

de1amo wrote: »

the pieces will be left for the nhs to pick up --the atos criterior seems to be driven by getting as many people off the sick list thus forfilling their role in the great gravvy train of gov depts -(if you left it to my father there would be 100pc employment rate)-- i am hoping this new Government might have a shred of common sense and see what is obvious--get unqualified people to make important decisions and it will cost you further down the line----i do see there are con artists that need weeding out by directing resources at the gp/consıltant level and leave really ill people alone and save money there---i have learnt to ignore my father because he will be meeting his maker long before me!!

You get GP's and docs like your father where ever you go.

Currently at our CDC there is a doctor who will not give an child a diagnosis of Autism unless they have kicked a dog. It is one of his questions and comes up often at our support group meetings.

They also apparently have said they will not give any more children diagnosis of ASD in this area because there are 'too many' children that have it and the NHS and Autism Advisory Service cannot cope with them.

And then there is the doc who refused to think I had anything more than a pelvic infection, which after switching to another doctor after 8 months resulted in my losing an ovary and having a 10cm cyst removed.

Quiet_Life

1.103 The Government will reform the Disability Living Allowance (DLA) to
ensure support is targeted on those with the highest medical need. The
Government will introduce the use of objective medical assessments
for all DLA claimants from 2013-14 to ensure payments are only made for
as long as a claimant needs them.



This is a direct quote from the budget

covlass

government_slave wrote: »

I have read the thread.
I am a carer to my severly autistic son who has sever learning disabilities and behaviourial problems, he was awarded DLA HRC and HRM for life at the age of 16, he was also awarded IB for life when he was 18 he attended a special needs school and is now attends a day care centre for adults with learing disabilities.
What is the point and going to the expense of giving people like him a medical when he has been disabled since a very young age [he was diagnoised at the age of 2]. Thought they were trying to save money.

They didnot award my daughter any thing and said the was not "mentally impaired" MMMmmmm so how bad do you have to be ?? She is 13 mental age of a 4 year old attends a special needs school for severe learning difficulties and complex needs she has Severe Autism Sensory integration needs challenging behaviour and asthma. We knew from day one that there would be some form of disability due to the fact she had a bleed on the brain. Yet despite this they still declined her claim.

bex4adz

Hi everyone I have just call DLA and they said that ALL existing and new claimants will have to go through the medical including those of us who get an indefinate award

Swan_2

covlass wrote:

My daughters DLA will be up for renewal when she is 16 & I hope she does have to have a medical to be honest after fighting 18mnths with DLA last time it was a joke. I also agree that it is Vital these people fully understand Autism after all if they are going to do a medical on a person with Autism then surely they should fully understand what it is !

government_slave wrote: »

I fully agree. I can remember one time taking my son [then 8yrs old] to see GP because he wasnt sleeping at all. He didnt even know what Autism was and promptly told me I was an overprotective mother and that he would grow out of Autism as he got older!!! Never went back to see him again.

let's hope those doing the medicals are better trained than when we first applied for DLA for my son (his Aspergers was undiagnosed at that time)

'they' sent a doctor to assess him & this man decided that he was 'just a bit of a mummy's boy' :mad: & would grow out of it ... I wish