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  • jellyhead
    jellyhead Posts: 21,555 Forumite
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    Not in our school - we don't have any lunchbox rules at all! The head just consulted parents on a junk ban in the playground but parents voted against it. The head was only talking about their 15 minute playtime, so parents still have the opportunity to give any daily treats they feel necessary in the lunchbox (or they have cake and custard with school dinner), for breakfast, after school snack and evening meal. Still, the majority insist that a ban on junk in the playground would be taking away parental choice.

    I'm hoping that by the time mine is old enough to take a snack instead of having the free piece of fruit that the head has managed to get the junk ban in place.
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  • Deepmistrust
    Deepmistrust Posts: 1,205 Forumite
    jellyhead wrote: »
    Not in our school - we don't have any lunchbox rules at all! The head just consulted parents on a junk ban in the playground but parents voted against it. The head was only talking about their 15 minute playtime, so parents still have the opportunity to give any daily treats they feel necessary in the lunchbox (or they have cake and custard with school dinner), for breakfast, after school snack and evening meal. Still, the majority insist that a ban on junk in the playground would be taking away parental choice.

    I'm hoping that by the time mine is old enough to take a snack instead of having the free piece of fruit that the head has managed to get the junk ban in place.

    You should insist on asking the school for a copy of their "Healthy Eating" policy (they will have one), and make a complaint to Ofsted if it is not standard, and the school refuses to do anything about it.

    It's not the schools role to pander to parents who want to bring in junk food.
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • jellyhead
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    I don't know what will happen next, but the letter about the results of the poll made it clear that the head is not impressed, and thinks that kids can do without junk food during that breaktime.

    It was a close thing, so maybe some of the parents can be persuaded. I assume that the head can make a decision whether parents like it or not though?

    I know it's rubbish of me, but I allow my 4 year old to have a small treat in his lunchbox simply because everyone else has crisps and chocolate. I don't want to be doing the same about breaktime, because that would be 2 pieces of junk every day. He'll be 7 I suppose, by the time the free fruit stops, so I'll have got tougher about the 'everyone else does it' aspects of school.
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  • Indie_Kid
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    jellyhead wrote: »
    I know it's rubbish of me, but I allow my 4 year old to have a small treat in his lunchbox simply because everyone else has crisps and chocolate.

    I really see no problem with this. It would be different if you gave him nothing but junk food.
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  • LizzieS_2
    LizzieS_2 Posts: 2,948 Forumite
    jellyhead wrote: »
    The head just consulted parents on a junk ban in the playground but parents voted against it.

    If the children have been brought up to eat junk, it is not their fault and they shouldn't be starved until lunchtime. It is the parents who should have been educated on food - years earlier!
  • jellyhead
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    I see your point, but they aren't brought up to eat junk at that particular time of day because in nursery and for the first 3 school years they are given fruit for breaktime, so they only start the junk habit at age 7.

    Smaller children will have to wait for their lunch if they don't like the fruit on offer, so if it's okay for them to starve during break then I don't think it will do older children any harm either. Of course there's the problem of some parents not sending a healthy snack, and the fruit won't be provided for free in key stage 2, so it's the parents choice whether they have fruit or go without.

    I'm currently volunteering in a year 2 class and if they don't like the fruit on offer they can get the fruit from their lunchbox (but the children having a cooked school meal won't have that I suppose, unless they bring some in their bag for just in case). some children bring in their own fruit for the breaktime anyway, just in case they don't like what's on offer.

    I really don't think it's a big deal, they could bring in the ban and the year 3's won't have had junk before so it's only years 4, 5 and 6 who will be upset by the junk ban, and most children age 8 and over should be able to cope.

    How likely is it that a parent who used to send in chocolate before will refuse to send fruit/veg instead?
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  • flight747
    flight747 Posts: 510 Forumite
    joanne_d wrote: »
    Think you are correct here....

    Flight is a troll !


    I am not a troll. I am disabled and deaf with diabetes. So, what wrong with my entitled to ? There is no rules of why do I need all those benefits of my need. Also, I am honest and did not break the LAW.
  • jellyhead
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    sh1305 wrote: »
    I really see no problem with this. It would be different if you gave him nothing but junk food.

    I meant it's rubbish of me to bow to peer pressure and let him have things just because 'everyone else does'. I compromise by finding smaller than average treats.

    I'm not overly strict about treats, I bought him an ice cream yesterday when the van came round. I'm just conscious of it because he's classed as very overweight, and a treat is not necessary with every lunch imo.
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 4,176 Forumite
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    flight747 wrote: »
    I am not a troll. I am disabled and deaf with diabetes. So, what wrong with my entitled to ? There is no rules of why do I need all those benefits of my need. Also, I am honest and did not break the LAW.


    Nobody is saying you are not disabled, you may well be but you are indeed a troll............

    TROLL.......

    One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument
  • flea72
    flea72 Posts: 5,392 Forumite
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    schools are totally going about controlling obesity in the wrong way

    eating a penguin bar and a packet of crisps as part of your snack/lunch isnt whats causing the rise in childrens' weight, its the sedentary lifestyle and lack of exercise

    if you look at the calorie/fat intake of the average kid nowadays, you will actually find they consume less in a day, than their comparables from 20yrs ago, so why lay the blame on unhealthy eating?

    perhaps the schools should be encouraging the kids to be more active, but that would mean the curriculum would have to be scaled down in other areas to allow for additional PE time, and guess what sporting achievements dont rate in league tables, so what school is gonna do that

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