Emergency Budget: tax credit cuts for millions

tizzy333

Local govt can not recruit at his level - there are not plenty of applicants- they actually employ agency staff as they can not fill the posts. Six months ago they had a recruitment drive and they couldn't fill the posts, even though they advertised extensively in the professional publications. I am not kidding there were a number of vacancies, but 1 had only 4 suitably qualified applicants that were invited to interview, 1 turned up!

patchwork cat, if your husband chooses to stay in his post when he can get a higher paid job elsewhere then that is clearly his choice but he/you then cannot complain about your income when he could move jobs and/or you could seek employment but neither of you are taking up those options. If you/he feel that he is unable to leave this post as it would not be filled successfully and the country would suffer as a result of new school designs not being to the correct standard then I admire the commitment and loyalty to his contribution. again maybe then you should get a job to support him if you really can't manage on over £30k

Indie_Kid

debrag wrote: »

Actually most people where I live don't work and DON'T WANT to work. They have kids AND family around them but claim they can't work.
Why do you need to live near a call centre to work there? I'm not suggesting miles away, home care where you can work the hours you want, cleaning. Actually someone just started at the care home I work at and does 1 day amd 2 evenings due to having kids. I know people who work in pubs who have kids.

Not all jobs allow you to work when you can.

[Deleted User]

golfwidow22 wrote: »

patchwork cat you need to think yourself lucky that your husband works in local government and has only had a pay freeze. my husband works in the construction industry and we all know how badly the industry has been hit, we have seen his pay fall by £400 per month!

Although I realise many private sector pay cuts & redundancies have already happened bringing much misery I think many people have missed the fact that the public sector redundancies are yet to come.

Goverment departments have all had their budget slashed by 25%. Over the next few weeks they'll figure out where they'll make their cuts in response to losing this funding.

We'll be seeing many more people on the dole queue soon.

tizzy333

Actually most people where I live don't work and DON'T WANT to work. They have kids AND family around them but claim they can't work.
Why do you need to live near a call centre to work there? I'm not suggesting miles away, home care where you can work the hours you want, cleaning. Actually someone just started at the care home I work at and does 1 day amd 2 evenings due to having kids. I know people who work in pubs who have kids.

I was trying to say that the jobs have to be local to work around school/childcare.
I am not saying that care work or pub work is impossible when you have kids, but it is impossible when you have no partner or family to have the children evenings/weekends as there is no childcare available then.

I am not totally disagreeing with you as I also know people who don't want to work. I actually do work and have done since my children were at preschool and I have never been picky with the type of work I have been offered and I know some people could work but are too choosy about the type of job. but I am defending those that would like to work and are finding it difficult to get a job to fit in around the children, until you have been in that situation you really have no idea what it is like

MissMoneypenny

dmg24 wrote: »

Can we have some figures to back up the statement please? It is difficult to quantify millions. Thank you.

From http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=506806&in_page_id=2

"Treasury sources have admitted that 5.7m families will not be able to claim a penny of the credit from 2012, leaving just 1.3m of the country's poorest households benefiting from the payment"

patchwork_cat

tizzy333 wrote: »

patchwork cat, if your husband chooses to stay in his post when he can get a higher paid job elsewhere then that is clearly his choice but he/you then cannot complain about your income when he could move jobs and/or you could seek employment but neither of you are taking up those options. If you/he feel that he is unable to leave this post as it would not be filled successfully and the country would suffer as a result of new school designs not being to the correct standard then I admire the commitment and loyalty to his contribution. again maybe then you should get a job to support him if you really can't manage on over £30k

Making assumptions again - I can't work due to health issues.

The thing that you are missing is if it wasn't for people like my DH who could earn a lot more in the private sector the infrastructure of the country would fall apart. His job is highly specialised and takes an awful lot of education and experience and frankly not that many people have the experience, qualifications or ability to do what he does. Yes he is a philanthropist and does believe in working for less for the benefit of others. ( an atribute I admire as my family have a long history of being dr's and teachers in days before they received the financial remuneration they do now.)

So next time that people 'dis' public sector employees remember those that work for less than they could for the benefit of others. Not everyone just works for the most money they can, but some, thankfully, believe in working for the good of the community.

Incidentally I did not post on this thread as a moan about my DH's pay, but to point out that the budget is not necessarily how it would appear - People who earn over £30K with one child will lose tax credits in 2012 - this will affect a lot more people than the headline £40K that is being touted around. I thought this was the thread to point this out, obviously I was incorrect.

Also as -shel has pointed out the redundancies in public sector are to come that will have a profound knock on effect on the private sector.

Too many alt's posting on this thread. Always wary of new user created adn first post attacks and then supports another poster!! I do wonder how much golfwidow partner was making during the good times, more than my DH who worked for the benefit of others during the boon years.

MissMoneypenny

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

From http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=506806&in_page_id=2

"Treasury sources have admitted that 5.7m families will not be able to claim a penny of the credit from 2012, leaving just 1.3m of the country's poorest households benefiting from the payment"

Thinking on, we still don't know what those 1.3m poorest families will have to do for tax credits. We know the government are keen to teach people to look after themselves. A bit like 3rd world countries: when we give money, they just need more money. When they are taught how to look after themselves, the aid can stop.

Deepmistrust

golfwidow22 wrote: »

i have looked over my post and cant see anything in it that is aggressive,let me tell you a little bit of how we have stuggled over the past few years, my husband is a sub contract joiner with over 28 years experience, he worked for he same building firm faithfully for over 18 years, then on the 5th of november 2008 the foreman came to him and said "sorry mate thats it no work on," well to say it came as a shock was an understatement,we trawlled the internet, the papers,got on the phone to agencies and there was nothing, it was a very bleak and frightening time,but we kept on looking and in the end we managed to find him something miles away from were we live it took him almost 2 hours there and 2 back each day leaving the house at 5.30am in all weathers snow etc over the snake pass in his old escort van, but we managed because we had to, we had no back up no redundacy package, in fact there is no help of any kind for sub contract worker in the building industry an industry that has been hit very hard, so when i hear people moaning about their income being frozen it does make me a little bit angry

I'm sorry for your situation, the construction industry has been hit hard thanks to reckless bank lending.

But if I were you, I'd stop wasting energy being 'angry' at other workers who have found them self victims of a recession they didn't cause too, and direct your anger appropriately, as opposed to doing what the banks etc want you to do...which is blame other workers, and working class people, rather than them that caused this mess, and are themselves, actually still sitting quite pretty.

But I guess they're not as easy a target.

mumofjusttwo

joanne_d wrote: »

Childcare costs can be met by tax credits...meaning they would pay the largest percentage of childcare costs and YOU would pay only a very small amount. So theres no such thing as "cant afford childcare"

Theres the csa for chasing absent parents who refuse to pay to support their children......the even greater thing is that any maintenance received from him is disregarded when counting income for tc's

Sorry I meant that I, personally, would not be able to afford the child care. The cost of child care will be more than the government pay me presently.


CSA Husband is not working at the moment and can not see that he will want to in the future.

tizzy333

remember those that work for less than they could for the benefit of others. Not everyone just works for the most money they can, but some, thankfully, believe in working for the good of the community.

thanks patchwork cat, you have just stated exactly what I do, which is I work for very little because I am putting my children first and want to be there for them and provide for them and I work very hard to make that happen. BUT I don't complain about my lot, actually I think I am very lucky to be able to be there for my kids and I have enough (just) to pay the bills. If you have choices, don't complain. many people don't have the luxury of choice