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Deepmistrust wrote: »She's already said she wouldn't deny being with him.
I am working on the assumption that if this is a rule for WTC purposes, it's also quite possibly the same rule the DWP use in these circumstances.
No one is really addressing the proper definition that the DWP would use in this case. I've posted up the HMRC definition, and it seems she is quite correct, for WTC purposes they are NOT to make a couple claim, but she is to make a single claim.
The definition of being a lone parent (as several other things) is not the same for IS as for WTC.0 -
Oldernotwiser wrote: »The definition of being a lone parent (as several other things) is not the same for IS as for WTC.
Which basically means that yes, it is also quite likely that IS would consider her single.
Which (although not her original question - she has most likely already been told by one government organisation HMRC - that she is "single"), means possibly, it's not a huge leap for another organisation to consider her eligble for IS too, especially given the salary of her partner.All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »Which basically means that yes, it is also quite likely that IS would consider her single.
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No it doesn't; you've misunderstood what I said!0 -
Oldernotwiser wrote: »No it doesn't; you've misunderstood what I said!
No, i've fully understood what you've said.
I've posted up HMRC's definition - which she probably is already aware of, assuming (as she works) she is already classed at single for WTC purposes.
The DWP may (or may not) consider her the same in her circumstances.
Or did I miss the link that states a partner not allowed to work or live in the UK, that earns about £5.00 per week abroad should support his UK partner financially, as the British Government refuses to pay income support to a mother and child?All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
Deepmistrust wrote: »Which basically means that yes, it is also quite likely that IS would consider her single.
Which (although not her original question - she has most likely already been told by one government organisation HMRC - that she is "single"), means possibly, it's not a huge leap for another organisation to consider her eligble for IS too, especially given the salary of her partner.
How can you say that? You are giving the OP false hope.
HMRC and DWP have different rulings for lots of things but particularly this kind of scenario.
You must have missed my post where I said that DWP work on a case by case basis and have no set in stone rulings.
Personally I think the DWP won't class her as a single parent but I'm not a DM and she will only know if she asks (or if she does it anyway and hopes that she doesn't get investigated which, if her husband is fighting to get in the country, I wouldn't bank on.0 -
Loopy_Girl wrote: »How can you say that? You are giving the OP false hope.
HMRC and DWP have different rulings for lots of things but particularly this kind of scenario.
You must have missed my post where I said that DWP work on a case by case basis and have no set in stone rulings.
Personally I think the DWP won't class her as a single parent but I'm not a DM and she will only know if she asks (or if she does it anyway and hopes that she doesn't get investigated which, if her husband is fighting to get in the country, I wouldn't bank on.
False hope? LMAO, by stating that the DWP may follow HMRC's stance in this particular scenario (assuming she will be out of work)?
The logical conclusion is: It's quite possible they will allow her IS. In fact, if they consider them a "couple" and then they would be forced to consider his extremely low salary, when calculating their family income. So, they would have a family on one full time wage earning £5.00 per week. Since when do the DWP starve children in this country?
Without confirming DWP stance on this (something no one on here can actually do - I have helped in confirming HMRC's stance - which is probably where she was RIGHTLY and LEGALLY told she is to claim as "Single" - albeit for WTC purposes), then, using your own logic, if I am giving "false hope" (hahaha) then you are giving "false doom and gloom".:rotfl:
EDIT: QUOTE " (or if she does it anyway and hopes that she doesn't get investigated which, if her husband is fighting to get in the country,"
She's already stated she would not deny them being a couple.All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
None of this need arise. The OP has a job and she can avoid an enormous amount of stress by staying in it. Apart from anything else, how is her husband going to live on his pittance if she stops earning and is unable to send money out to him? There's precious little spare on IS and no guarantee that she'll get another job when the summer is over.0
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Okay...you're so right:rotfl::rotfl:
Jesus....next time you get a shipment of crystal balls in, can you send me one0 -
Oldernotwiser wrote: »None of this need arise. The OP has a job and she can avoid an enormous amount of stress by staying in it. Apart from anything else, how is her husband going to live on his pittance if she stops earning and is unable to send money out to him? There's precious little spare on IS and no guarantee that she'll get another job when the summer is over.
That's quite true, but doesn't actually address the question in hand.All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.0 -
And no one can answer her question as none of us are the DM who would consider her case.
Yes, clever you got the HMRC ruling on it. Shame that it's the DWP that deal with IS and they don't have a ruling.0
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